According to an unpublished paper, some of Wittgenstein's thoughts were worked out as he sat overlooking his garden, and then subsequently amended. "1. The garden is all that is the case. 1.1 The garden divides into plots. "The limits of my garden are the limits of my world." "Whereof we cannot plant, thereof we should pass over in silence". His famous "beetle-in-the-box" arose from a time when he caught a ladybird in a matchbox and then sat in his garden for several days opening and closing the box. The "private language" argument was originally the "private garden" argument, which Wittgenstein derived from reflecting on how it was not logically possible to have a garden entirely closed off from public view. I am tired now, as are you. Dnl Ldn On Friday, 28 February 2014, 22:04, David Ritchie <profdritchie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: On Feb 28, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Omar Kusturica wrote: This discussion seems rather frivolous and 'jejune' in light of Wittgenstein's serious interest in gardening, and someone's bad mood. > > >O.K. > >More jefebruary than jejune, I'd have thought, but frivolous certainly. David