[lit-ideas] Re: Whose Trained? Horses Are Trained
- From: wokshevs@xxxxxx
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:23:41 -0230
I would wager my Volvo that I have never in my entire life ever stated or
believed that "a human being is a character disposition."
From a nice hotel on Sherbrooke St., la belle ville
Walter O
Quoting Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx:
> Geary quotes the dialogue:
>
> "Me: "In other words, do you believe in autonomous human beings?"
> Walter: "As a character disposition, yes."
>
> and tries to apologise for it:
>
> "I'm not sure what that means. I'm not trained in philosophy."
>
> Who's trained in philosophy. Having now read the books by R. S. Peters, I've
>
> come to realise that 'training' is a bad Americanistic idiom, sometimes used
>
> in England too.
>
> The first 'training colleges' were horsemanship clubs -- and who got trained
>
> where 'horses', never people.
>
> Then there's military training camps, which train soldiers, etc.
>
> But PHILOSOPHIA as Plato conceived it in the Academus grove (if not
> Aristotle, the money-collector, in the Lykaeon) was _never_ conceived as
> having
> ANYTHING to do with 'training'.
>
> Singers are trained. Dancers are trained. Philosophers (or wizards of love,
>
> as I prefer) cannot and will not be trained -- less so by _other_ OLDER
> wizards of love.
>
> If Geary doesn't know what Walter means by his escapade, "a human being is a
>
> character disposition", that's not because Geary lacks training -- which
> nobody gets anyway. it's because Walter is not brave enough that he does NOT
>
> believe in human beings, which is sad assuming he is one, or even not.
>
> Cheers,
>
> J. L. Speranza, Esq.
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