[lit-ideas] Who are you supporting in this war?

  • From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:40:37 -0800

Andreas, you are another one with nothing good to say about your government,
administration or army.  The thrust of your diatribes, the implications of
your assertions, are clearly anti-American.  Supporting this is the fact
that you don't have equal venom for enemies who on any objective scale are
some of the most heinous tyrants of modern times.   We are engaged in a war
with a Civilization that has very different standards, and it does no one
any good, especially you, to live in a fantasy world imagining that you are
living in Nazi Germany with Bush as Hitler.  The very fact that you can
oppose our war effort during a war is proof that you live in a democracy.
You could not do that in those countries you, in effect, defend.  You
couldn't do that in Iran and you couldn't have done it in Saddam's Iraq.

 

You and Mike both criticize my reading, but whenever I ask where you get
your information, I usually get no answer.  You quoted one writer you
approved and he was on the far left.  The writers I read aren't on the far
right.  I seek out the best authorities, not political polemicists from the
Left or the Right.  I don't believe you can say the same.

 

I've also noticed that both you and Mike are using some of the same
arguments I'm reading from the Islamists.  This is no new discovery on my
part.  Others have noted the same thing, this wedding of the Left with the
Islamists.  Doesn't that bother you?  Are you on the Left getting those
arguments from the Islamists or are they getting them from you?  Osama
praised a Leftist writer in one of his recent speeches and I gather the
writer was happy for the publicity.  

 

Also, you are asserting matters that are factually wrong, but you repeat
them as though you didn't know that.  I suppose you have an excuse for this,
inasmuch as much of the mainstream media agrees with your Leftist emphases,
but no one who attempts to find the truth is going to buy that stuff.  More
and more people are looking elsewhere.   Consider this from the BBC:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4511688.stm . 

 

I'll agree that one of us has taken an extreme position, but it isn't me.

 

Lawrence

 

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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Bush's domestic tsunami and a question

 

From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

 

> I suspect we agree that Bush's Foreign Policy has been a good one.  The
more

> I read, the more reasons I find for that view.  So in terms of Foreign

> Policy Bush is the wise and courageous leader.

 

Let's see...

 

US relations with the entire planet are at basically rock bottom. The US
started an illegal 

war in Iraq over fake intelligence. Tens of thousands dead. $2 trillion
totally wasted. It 

can't get worse.

 

Well, actually, it could. The US could start a nuclear war in Iran over fake
intelligence. 

Yep, that'll do it.

 

The US just got clobbered over human rights. Namely, the torture dungeons.

 

Environment? Can you remember Kyoto?

 

Treaties? The US just ignores them.

 

And as for Bush himself? Whenever he shows up in a foreign country, it takes
5,000 to 10,000 

police and military to protect him. Not even Stalin or Hitler needed that
many bodyguards. 

He's possibly the most ridiculed and despised person in history.

 

Lawrence, you only read books that fit in your extremely narrow
ultra-rightwing worldview.

 

yrs,

andreas

www.andreas.com

 

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