It's odd. There's whine, and it's perfectly good form whiner. Why would anyone take whinge and turn that into whinger? yrs, andreas www.andreas.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 10:17 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Whinger... (Was: Thinks...) > In a message dated 6/1/2004 1:10:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, > andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: > I asked, because whiner rhymes with wine. Whinger sounds so un-English. > > > > Yup. Unfortunately, when it comes to etymology, the OED is here not very > ellucidatory, but rather circulatory: > 'whinger': "presumably related to the earlier synonymous 'whinyard' ..." > 'whinyard': "of obscure origin; cf. 'whinger'." > The OED notes there's Scot dial. 'whinge', to whine, a 'whinge', a whine. > Cheers, > > JL > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html