[lit-ideas] Re: What's THIS ?!?
- From: Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:21:42 -0500
I only have one place where copyright laws really annoy me. I, too, play
the piano (and violin), and there are times when I want to practice a long
piece of music (a Mozart Sonata, e.g.), without a page turn, before I have
opportunity to commit it to memory. The local xerox places will not copy
so much as one page out of a book copyrighted as far back as ...
well....forever.... for me. Illogically, but fortunately for me (I can't
afford 3 books of Mozart Sonatas when I paid a fair amount of money for the
one I own), they'll provide a xerox machine for me and allow me to copy
that page myself. <insert multiple epithets here>
Julie Krueger
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Veronica Caley <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> **
> I was not thinking about piracy. I was thinking of someone lending their
> Kindle or such to a relative. Not copying, which is theft. Re reading
> aloud, I was not thinking of "performing." My husband and I sometimes will
> read a paragraph to each other. Everyone is not a thief.
>
> I lately heard that people steal like crazy at self check outs. This
> never occurred to me and I wouldn't do it. But I have no sympathy for
> stores which Aare trying to automate everyone out of a job.
>
> Re music,, I play the piano and pay for the music books I use. Even for
> Bach.
>
> Veronica Caley
>
> Milford,, MI
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Thomas Hart <tehart@xxxxxxx>
> *To:* lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:04 PM
> *Subject:* [lit-ideas] Re: What's THIS ?!?
>
> Actually, it's not silly.
>
> An electronic file can be reproduced endlessly with the click of a button.
> If you can obtain a work for little or no cost, you're not going to buy it.
> That's why there are so many illegal copies of overpriced programs like
> Autocad in engineering offices. They buy one copy at $4,000, and then it's
> passed around throughout the organization. Autodesk, the manufacturer of
> Autocad may well jack the price up to compensate for the pirated copies.
>
> Once the file is lent, it can be copied and archived. You can go to a
> library, check out a CD, DVD, or Blu-Ray, and then copy it to your
> computer. The library effectively becomes an accomplice in piracy. The same
> goes for books. BODT (Books On Dead Trees) can be scanned, turned into PDF
> files, or text files, and then passed around endlessly. There are sites
> where you can download dozens of books that are not in the public domain,
> not released for free distribution. The available titles range from John
> Grisham and Tom Clancy novels to titles from O'Reilly, Cambridge University
> Press, and Oxford University press, and these are all available illegally
> and free.
>
> Now I personally think that the copyright law needs revision so that works
> from the 1930s, 1940s, and maybe even the 1960s and 1970s are freely
> available, but the law as it stands says that many works that you can find
> freely available on the net are there illegally.
>
> As to the reading aloud, that probably comes under the category of
> performance. All of Bach is in the public domain, but when you perform and
> record an harpsichord concerto, that performance is copyrightable, and
> cannot be used in a public forum without paying a fee. So you can read
> sonnets to your sweetie in private, but don't do it at your local tavern.
> It may also mean that you can't use any text to speech functions.
>
> "All women are created equal.
> Then some become Marines"
>
> Katy Perry video for "Part of me"
>
> Thomas Hart
> tehart@xxxxxxx
>
>
>
> On Apr 11, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Veronica Caley wrote:
>
> Lending not allowed
> Reading aloud not allowed
>
> Shows the silliness of too many rules, laws, regulations that are
> inherently unenforceable..
>
> Veronica Caley
> Milford, MI
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <cblists@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 3:19 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] What's THIS ?!?
>
>
> I don't have, but - until I read the following - had been considering
> purchasing, an electronic book 'reader'.
>
>
> In searching the Internet for William Gaddis' AGAPE, AGAPE, I noticed the
> following 'additional details' appended to the listing for the Adobe
> eBooks edition:
>
>
> Adobe PDF eBook Rights
>
> Copying not allowed
>
> Printing not allowed
>
> Lending not allowed
>
> Reading aloud not allowed
>
>
> The first two or three seem straightforward enough (the lending
> restriction seems a bit severe; it's hard to imagine not lending out a
> book).
>
>
> BUT can it possibly be true that, should I purchase an eBook copy of this
> (or any other book with similar 'rights' attached), I would be agreeing
> (in a legally binding way) that I would not read the book aloud to a
> friend / loved one / family member?
>
>
> Do people actually, by buying such eBooks, agree to such a restriction in
> (what to me is an essential component in) the life of a piece of literature?
>
>
> Chris Bruce,
>
> more thankful than ever for his
>
> 'outsider borrowing privileges'
>
> at the local university library, in
>
> Kiel, Germany
>
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