[lit-ideas] Re: What Every Soldier Knows

  • From: John Wager <jwager@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:38:55 -0500

Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx wrote:
In a message dated 5/27/2010 3:56:44 A.M., rpaul@xxxxxxxx
quotes J. Wager and me on "I cannot see how you can KNOW that the commander KNOWS."  and 
writes: "He knows it in the same way that Mark Twain knew that Huck Finn and Jim went down a 
river on a raft."

I guess I should reread that novel. It IS fiction, no?
Only in part. It's actually a somewhat fictionalized account of a vaguely remembered conversation I had on a BBS with someone YEARS ago about obeying orders. I don't "know" how much of what I remember of what he said was true, was true.

Although what I said the commander "KNOWS" are facts: "The divisional commander knows that this area has extensive enemy prepared positions, and that the current location of the division is successfully protecting local populations against enemy action as well as currently controlling the ground through narrow raids into the new area of operations."

These three things are examples of historical knowledge: The first would have involved evidence of documents, captured radio transmissions, and patrols into the "area." The second would have involved comparisons of civilian casualty figures in different areas or a comparison with previous efforts. The third would have been less factual, but still within what I would call the professional knowledge of a military specialist--How well the current dispositions were at interdicting and controlling enemy activities. Beyond that, I would entirely agree that what the commander did was use guesswork and professional judgment about possible future changes.

Regarding your earlier question about the lieutenant leading a patrol only 50 yards out: This was, in my estimation, wrong--in fact a very stupid decision. Yes, it is dangerous to go on a patrol that might encounter the enemy. But such short-range patrols are one of the only ways that the larger unit could protect itself against well-planned attacks by the enemy; a company that did NOT send out such patrols, or one that had lieutenants that did not actually go on them, was a company that would put itself at higher risk of suffering casualties in an attack. Only going out 50 yards also would place the patrol in danger of being shot at by the rest of the company. Going out 300 yards would make this risk lower, but raise the risk of being shot by friendly artillery fire that did not know the real location of the patrol.


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