[lit-ideas] Re: What Every School Boy Knows

  • From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 13:39:41 EDT

In a message dated 5/29/2010 9:53:40 A.M.,  donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx 
The sleight-of-hand is that we do not  ordinarily use the verb "knew" in 
the first-person when referring back to some  knowledge we now know to be 
false: we would tend to use "I thought..", "I  believed.." etc. This usage 
avoids the confusion that might arise if it seemed  we were saying that we 
correctly" something we now recognise as false: a  confusion liable to arise 
because of the two very different senses in which we  may claim to "know", 
only one of which has connotations of justified true  belief.  


Thanks. I should revise Plato on 'circle'. I KNOW I posted the thing to  
CLASSICS-L, so I may search the files. It combines with what Grice says about  
'circle' and 'knowledge' (in WoW, 'Meaning Revisited').
Re McEvoy's above, it seems to incorporate Grice's worst nightmare!
--- Grice coined "Modified Occam Razor": "Senses should not be multiplied  
beyond necessity". Surely McEvoy's is an unnecessary multiplication of the 
sense  of 'know', especially when you can explain the oddity of "I knew that 
my granny  was there, but I was wrong" by pointing that the utterer is 
--- To accept ONE Sense of 'know' and ANOTHER sense of "Know" is enough to  
give Grice a heart attack. And to add Tense Variability: "One thing is the 
sense  of 'know'; another a sense of "knew"" would give him ANOTHER heart 
attack, if  that were possible (i.e. on the basis that he may have survived 
the FIRST one).  Etc.
JL Speranza, Bordgihera
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