[lit-ideas] Re: What Are They Fighting For?

  • From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 11:11:22 -0700 (PDT)

Stan,

As usually, your reply contains nothing but
ideological accusations and personal insults. I don't
see any point in pursuing this discussion with you any
further at this time.

O.K.


--- Stan Spiegel <writeforu2@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Omar -
> 
> Your manichean version of this Israeli / Palestinian
> conflict is all too 
> predictable. As a paranoid portrait of Israel's
> motives and actions, it 
> doesn't warrant the time and energy it would take to
> discredit. Your bias is 
> set in stone. Israel is bad. Palestinians are good. 
> It doesn't matter what 
> happens. Who does what and where. You look forward
> to the light the way 
> Dracula does.
> 
> Stan Spiegel
> Portland
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Omar Kusturica" <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <polidea@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:53 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] What Are They Fighting For?
> 
> 
> > Whatever may be the fate of the captive soldier
> Gilad
> > Shalit, the Israeli armyís war in Gaza is not
> about
> > him. As senior security analyst Alex Fishman
> widely
> > reported, the army was preparing for an attack
> months
> > earlier and was constantly pushing for it, with
> the
> > goal of destroying the Hamas infrastructure and
> its
> > government. The army initiated an escalation on 8
> June
> > when it assassinated Abu Samhadana, a senior
> appointee
> > of the Hamas government, and intensified its
> shelling
> > of civilians in the Gaza Strip. Governmental
> > authorization for action on a larger scale was
> already
> > given by 12 June, but it was postponed in the wake
> of
> > the global reverberation caused by the killing of
> > civilians in the air force b! ombing the next day.
> The
> > abduction of the soldier released the
> safety-catch,
> > and the operation began on 28 June with the
> > destruction of infrastructure in Gaza and the mass
> > detention of the Hamas leadership in the West
> Bank,
> > which was also planned weeks in advance. (1)
> >
> > In Israeli discourse, Israel ended the occupation
> in
> > Gaza when it evacuated its settlers from the
> Strip,
> > and the Palestiniansí behavior therefore
> constitutes
> > ingratitude. But there is nothing further from
> reality
> > than this description. In fact, as was already
> > stipulated in the Disengagement Plan, Gaza
> remained
> > under complete Israeli military control, operating
> > from outside. Israel prevented any possibility of
> > economic independence for the Strip and from the
> very
> > beginning, Israel did not implement a single one
> of
> > the clauses of the agreement on border-crossings
> of
> > November 2005. Israel simply substituted the
> expensive
> > occupation of Gaza with a cheap occupation, one
> which
> > in Israelís view exempts it from! the occupierís
> > responsibility to maintain the Strip, and from
> concern
> > for the welfare and the lives of its million and a
> > half residents, as determined in the fourth Geneva
> > convention.
> >
> > Israel does not need this piece of land, one of
> the
> > most densely populated in the world, and lacking
> any
> > natural resources. The problem is that one cannot
> let
> > Gaza free, if one wants to keep the West Bank. A
> third
> > of the occupied Palestinians live in the Gaza
> strip.
> > If they are given freedom, they would become the
> > center of Palestinian struggle for liberation,
> with
> > free access to the Western and Arab world. To
> control
> > the West Bank, Israel needs full control Gaza. The
> new
> > form of control Israel has developed is turning
> the
> > whole of the Strip into a prison camp completely
> > sealed from the world.
> >
> > http://www.counterpunch.org/reinhart07142006.html
> >
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