In a message dated 3/16/2013 4:05:51 A.M. UTC-02, _juliereneb@gmail.com_ (mailto:juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx) quotes: "The universalizability principle enables Hare to avoid the charge of irrationality that is usually lodged against non-cognitivism , to which his prescriptivism belongs" and writes: "Could someone enlighten me and tell me what "non-cognativism" and "prescriptivism" are IN THIS CONTEXT? It seems to me to be specialized vocabulary in this area of dialogue. If I unwrap the sentence, the blunt sense is that prescriptivism is somehow a subset of non-ccognitivism, (...which would, w/out the statement above, be vunlerable to a charge of irrationaly...)." Exactly! I should revise my source! --- Indeed, cognitivism, as I understand it, is the idea that morality belongs in the realm of _BELIEF_. Personally, I don't trust the word 'cognitivism', because I see it as too associated with 'cognise', which is a verb that Chomsky 'coined' as synonym for 'know'. Now, I'm enough of a relativist to want to speak of moral 'belief' (rather than moral 'knowledge' -- simpliciter). Hare's prescriptivism has been criticised in that in his view imperatives, circularly, do an act of 'imperare' -- From Lewis/Short, Latin Dictionary: "impĕro (inp- ), āvi, ātum, 1 (archaic form, imperassit, Cic. Leg. 3, 3, 6, and induperantum = imperantium, Enn. Ann. v. 413 Vahl.), v. a. and n. in-paro, -- I.to command, order, enjoin (cf.: jubeo, praecipio, mando)." Hare prefers to say, 'prescribe'. Imperatives prescribe. Descriptions describe. Hare runs into problems in Part II of his "Language of Morals", when he has to provide for the prescriptive (or imperative) force of things like, "What a GOOD book this is!" -- and which invited the remark by Grice that "x is good" only IMPLICATES that the utterer recommends X, rather than SAY it. The charge of irrationality was I think counterattacked by Hare by reference to hypothetical scenarios like the ps, from an online source. If cognitivism is the thesis that morality belongs in beliefs, non-cognitivism holds that it belongs rather in 'desires' (conativism). Again, all this may need to be double (or triple?) checked, etc. Cheers, Speranza ps. [DOC] Reconsidering Hare's Argument for Utilitarianism philosophy.fas.nyu.edu/.../singer.do... - "Hare makes a ... statement about a Nazi who asserts that all Jews should be killed. This prescription commits the Nazi to prescribing that he himself should be killed, in the hypothetical case in which he discovers that he is a Jew. Since, we assume, the interests of Jews in continuing to live are greater than the interests of Nazis in killing them, no one would prefer to live the lives of all those affected by the prescription that all Jews be killed. Nevertheless, Hare says, a Nazi could be so fanatical about his belief in racial purity that he would think that he should be killed, even if he were a Jew. If he accepts that, he is not violating universalizability. Instead, in Hare’s words, "the fanatic nails his flag to the content of the ideal, irrespective of its holder."" ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html