I've no idea what sort of trick you are tricking. The first site I cited in my previous note on this subject also provided that information: Casualties in Iraq The Human Cost of Occupation Edited by Michael Ewens <http://www.foranewliberty.com/blog/> :: Contact <http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/contact.php> American Military Casualties in Iraq Date Total In Combat American Deaths Since war began (3/19/03): 2937 2412 Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03) (the list <http://antiwar.com/casualties/list.php> ) 2800 2313 Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 2471 2105 Since Handover (6/29/04): 2071 1780 Since Election (1/31/05): 1501 1296 American Wounded Official Estimated <http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/10/1537224> Total <http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/#wounded> Wounded: 21778 22000 - 100000 <http://www.antiwar.com/glantz/?articleid=9937#wounded> Latest Fatality December 12th, 2006 <http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/list.php> Page last updated 12/14/06 11:17 am EDT -----Original Message----- From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andreas Ramos Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:26 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: U.S. superlatives (was Victor Hanson in Iraq) Hey, Lawrence, since you don't care about Arabs, dead or alive, how about Americans? Here's a question for you: can you accurately tell me how many Americans have died in Iraq? Yes, that's a trick question, because the US government's answer is not the correct answer. They're lying, just as they lie about the number of dead Iraqi. After all, it's just dead lower class people, right? So, go ahead: how many Americans have died in Iraq? yrs, andreas www.andreas.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html