Just as in the Torygraph article, the problems with Lawrence's pronouncement(s) are often in the detail rather than the gloss. Cancer survival rates are a result of many variables of which the choice of drug is just one. Foremost, and for the most part unspecified in the linked article, is the type of cancer which can vary between countries and between classes. The starkest difference between healthcare delivery in the UK and in the US is that specific treatments here might be withheld because the health authority has concerns about its efficacy when set against the cost, whereas in the US any treatment might be wthheld because the patient is unable to pay for it. Lawrence might well be correct in saying that the range of medical factlities, including equipment and drugs, is better in the US, but just as important is access to it, which is far from universal. Lawrence may be happy with the health choice made in the US. I'm happy with the choice we've made over here. Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Helm To: Lit-Ideas Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 5:07 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] UK cancer survival rates worst in Western Europe http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/10/ncancer10.xml&DCMP=EMC-new_10052007 Not that I've gone looking for such articles, but I do recall that every time the subject of medicine and health care comes up, Judy & a few others lambaste the U.S. and laud Europe, especially the UK for being far far ahead of the US in all areas. The article above suggests that some in the UK may hold a different opinion -- at least at present. Lawrence