[lit-ideas] Re: Tune in and turn off

  • From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 17:23:10 -0400

Who said anything about rationalizing feelings?  I like your style of
criticizing without contributing anything.



> [Original Message]
> From: Carol Kirschenbaum <carolkir@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 5/1/2006 5:01:15 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Tune in and turn off
>
> Omar wrote:
>  but it is possible to rationalize them
> > by talking about them constantly. That is the idea of
> > psychotherapy.
>
> ck: This--rationalizing feelings--is not the idea of psychotherapy at
all. 
> You're out of your depth. So is Iremandy in misdescribing 
> cognitive-behavioral theory. How irritating would it be to hear the study
of 
> nuclear physics seriously described as small, invisible objects that
control 
> everything. That's about the level of psychodynamic theory, discussed
here. 
> The grasp of concepts gleaned is too rudimentary to withstand swift 
> correction.  But the apparent disrespect for psychology in this
discussion 
> makes attempts at correction unnecessary.
> Carol
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Omar Kusturica" <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 10:47 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Tune in and turn off
>
>
> >
> >
> > --- Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> For Omar, talking about feelings is like talking
> >> about hunger.  Does talking about hunger water down
> >> hunger?
> >
> > *No, but I don't think that emotions and bodily
> > sensations are the same thing, though they can be
> > lumped together as 'feelings.'
> >
> > There is a school of thought that says one
> >> can control one's feelings by addressing the
> >> underlying unconscious thought process.  But
> >> emotions are beyond logic or reason.
> >
> > *As such, yes, but it is possible to rationalize them
> > by talking about them constantly. That is the idea of
> > psychotherapy. My point is that there is a danger of
> > losing the emotion by constantly analyzing it,
> > discussing it, expressing it verbally etc.
> >
> > O.K.
> >
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