Re. the lack of warning, seems there'll be a bit of a ruckus over this: _http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2004/12/28/headlines/index.php?news=headlines _15908069.html_ (http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2004/12/28/headlines/index.php?news=headlines_15908069.html) << Warning rejected to protect tourism Published on December 28, 2004 Minutes after the earthquake hit northern Sumatra at 7.58am on Sunday, officials of the Meteo-rological Department, who were at a seminar in Cha-am, convened an emergency meeting chaired by Supharerk Tansrirat-tanawong, director-general. They had just learned that the Bangkok office had reported a quake measuring at 8.1 on the Richter scale, which was much lower than the level officially recorded later. â??We didnâ??t think there would be subsequent seismic waves, because a similar quake of 7.6 on the Richter scale, which hit Sumatra on November 2, 2002, did not affect Thailand,â?? said a member of the department who asked not to be named. Moreover, the quake this time hit west of Sumatra and officials thought the island might offer a natural shelter, preventing any waves from breaking towards Phuket and its vicinity, he said. With slightly less than one hour before the waves came ashore, Supharerk said, the department officials did not expect a tsunami. There are just four people on the departmentâ??s 900-person staff who are earthquake experts, he said. Also, a tsunami had not hit Thailand in more than 300 years. But sources said they did discuss the likelihood that a tsunami could hit Thailandâ??s Andaman Sea coastal towns. This was also played down. â??The very important factor in making the decision was that itâ??s high [tourist] season and hotel rooms were nearly 100-per-cent full. If we issued a warning, which would have led to evacuation, [and if nothing happened], what would happen then? Business would be instantaneously affected. It would be beyond the Meteorological Departmentâ??s ability to handle. We could go under, if [the tsunami] didnâ??t come,â?? said a source who attended the meeting. â??We hesitated for a while whether we should issue a warning or not. It was discussed but we didnâ??t have a chance to do it.â?? Supharerk denied that tourism factored into the discussion at the 11th hour. â??I think we have done our best,â?? he said. Precisely at 9am that Sunday, waves as high as 3 to 10 metres hit the main southern coastal provinces of Phuket, Phang Nga, Krabi and Ranong. Pravit Rojanaphruk The Nation >> ========Original Message======== Subj: [lit-ideas] Tsunami Date: 12/27/04 1:52:37 P.M. Central Standard Time From: _andreas@xxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx) To: _lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent on: Several items about the tsunami in Southeast Asia. 1) I was working at my computer on Christmas afternoon, preparing for a certification exam, and I saw on SE Asian websites the news item about the earthquake. I also noticed that for at least six hours, none of the American media mentioned it. 2) When the earthquake happened, I immediately thought this would cause a tsunami. I live on the coast of California, where earthquakes are a daily occurance (see for example the daily report at http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsUS/Maps/US10/32.42.-125.-115.html , which shows some 260 local earthquakes for the last week, plus the 1.4 from this morning). But there were no reports or warnings about a tsunami in Southeast Asia. 3) The tsunami came ashore about 8-9 in the morning local time (about 2.5 hrs after the earthquake.) Many tourists were on the beach. 4) No warning had been given. The public health authorities, the government, etc., did not warn people about the tsunami. There was at least 2.5 hrs of time, but nobody was warned. 5) Therefore, this is two disasters: 1) the tsunami and 2) the catastrophic failure to warn people. More than 22,000 died. With 2.5 hrs of warning, many of those could have survived. 6) Because there were lots of tourists on the beaches cavorting around, there are plenty of videos of the tsunami. See for example http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml , which has publicly accessible video (no fees, no pay). 7) I had always thought that a tsunami would be a large wave. Perhaps because of Hokusai's painting The Great Wave (see for example www.andreas.com/hokusai.html ). Hollywood disaster movies also include giant waves crashing ashore. However, watching the videos, you see that the English name, tidal wave, is more descriptive: the sea literally begins to rise, as if the tide is coming in. There's no wave, not even a wavelet. The best name would be "tidal surge", but nobody would name a painting or a disaster movie after that. The sea rises extremely fast (people are suddenly in water that is 15-20 feet deep) and then recedes very fast, sweeping many people far out to sea. 8) So what happened on Diego Garcia? This is a semi-secret US military base, smack in the middle of the Indian Ocean. It is only a few feet above sea level. Diego Garcia is extremely critical to US military activities in Iraq and Afghanistan. If the tsunami was 15-20 feet high and it swept the entire Indian Ocean, then Diego Garcia must have been affected. Yet there is precisely zero in all media about anything on Diego Garcia. The official website http://www.dg.navy.mil/ says nothing. Which leads one to suspect that something happened. Otherwise, they would have reported that they had a minor wave, minor flooding, etc. So perhaps pay attention to this. yrs, andreas www.andreas.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html