--- On Sat, 2/1/10, Walter C. Okshevsky <wokshevs@xxxxxx> wrote: > > Truth is the > > correspondence (of a proposition) to the facts [a la > Tarski]. > > I did hang around long enuff to hear an answer, but I doubt > the answer is > coherent. Isn't it the case that facts are those kinds of > beasties that are > *expressed* by propositions, if true? Surely true > propositions don't and can't > "correspond" to facts as if facts grew on trees, or were > encased in sherry > casks, and were able to be individuated independent of > propositional form. Well this is just confusion. The fact "Snow is white" is (assumimg it true a statement) independent of the expression "Snow is white". Its truth is, in this sense, "individuated independent of propositional form", even if _expressing_ such a truth is not. [The reference to facts growing on trees is neither here nor there; facts aren't encased in sherry casks either, though some thoughts and their expression might be influenced by the contents of such casks.] Donal > (Just as human being does not exist independently of its > understanding of the > nature of human being - HIM again - the nosing and tasting > notes of a fine > single malt do not exist independent of their linguistic > description in > Jackson's bible.) > > A Hapy New Year to anyone whose calendar so proclaims. > > Walter O. > > > > > > > > > > > > May we infere that all those writing from de Saussure > onwards are to be > > regarded relatavist? > > > > T E Fjeld > > Eidsvoll > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Alt i ett. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, > kalender og > > notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, > vacation on/off, > > digest on/off), visit > www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, > vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html