[lit-ideas] Re: Truth Is Where You Find It
- From: palma@xxxxxxxx
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- Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:16:53 -0500 (EST)
well, not quite
in philosophy circle the great one who made the "rash act" was the
father Origen
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Geary's Truth
>
> Geary says "shuck" (a portmanteau, in Lewis Carroll's definition) and calls
> himself the vernacular of Aquinas "bos castratus stolidus".
>
> ---. figuratively (I believe of the philosophers, the 'castratus' bit only
> applies literally to Peter Abelardus, the Logician, but that is for a longer
> day -- and it was Eloise's fault).
>
> Geary, the bull, -- he says he has a thick skin -- continues:
>
> >"it is [a] bit aggravating [to me] when someone
> >[like Walter Okshewsky] says I'm all wrong but [he] won't >say how or where
> [on this list] or why [consciously or
> unconsciously -- stick to the 'how']. I can understand not wanting to get
> into a tedious argument of invidious extent, [who envies it?] but just an
> outline of one's counter argument would help clarify my own thoughts
> [as oppose to Walter's own thoughts? Them's as need clarifying!], no need to
> go beyond that."
>
> -- Well thank you!
>
> Yes, he said you were uttering
>
> (i) fallacies
> (ii) contradictions
> (iii) self-contradictions
>
> and to sum up his post with a pleasantry, he said that he will give you wine.
>
> I think it's his duty now to repost his post, and do some running
> commentary.
>
> First, I think alleging that someone is being fallacious is pretty strong,
> if we understand -- as I do -- a fallacy as an INTENTION to mislead (The word
> etymologically refers to 'fail', but I would claim that one is not fallacious
> who fails, but who desires the addressee of her message _fails_ -- cfr.
> Quintilianus, Institutio Oratoria)
>
> Second, there's the point of the distinction between a contradiction and a
> self-contradiction. The latter is possibly more interesting at this stage,
> because he would need to quote at least _two_ sentences from Geary's
> manifesto
> and explain -- in easy deductive steps -- how
> the whole Geary is _self-contradicting_ (himself).
>
> Etc.
>
> But since he has *apologised* -- who cares?
>
> (Just joking)
>
> Cheers,
>
> JL
> "Truth is Where You Find It"
>
>
>
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