For one view on this perhaps important figure, particularly for his role as a cultural catalyst:- http://music.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2147134,00.html For Joy Division's first two albums alone he will have a permanent, if peripheral, place in musical history: in fact, there's a movie about the whole scene '24 Hour Party People' [I haven't yet seen it]. Donal Btw: do many 'get' the allusion in the thread title? Too few perhaps (it's a multiple allusion actually - the kind Tony Wilson seemed to like - taking in Neil Young's 'Rust Never Sleeps' which was cited in Kurt Cobain's 'I'm-joining-that-stupid-mom' last note, who was deeply influenced by Joy Division and the self-hanging Ian Curtis, which band was arguably brought to light through Wilson's endeavours (and taste)....And so it goes............Not btw parading through allusion my knowledge (as of, say, Heidegger) so much as paying tribute and also curious what knowledge there is on the list of what is perceived by some as important in contemporary culture, which includes punk - as Neil Young recognised in 'Rust Never Sleeps'. Basta. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html