Yes, and to echo W. O., I too thank you for your academic patience. And hope you realise that if I'm being slightly offensive, is just because I don't _mean_ it. Yes, I'm using the OED, but _while I can_, which is not in aeternibus. But, yes, I should have checked about Anscombe, who I believe you knew personally and came to love. You must tell me more of your Oxford days, if you feel like. Onlist or offlist. -- And Good Night, List -- I think I've written my share (Palma, don't insult me by suggesting "B. S.") for a holiday! Good titles, Wager -- Open Court is really open. Cheers, JL ps. I'm cc RP in case he has me in IGNORE! :(, but then he would ignore the offlist, too. Isn't that a dilemma. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com