[lit-ideas] Re: The winner has already been selected?
- From: Eternitytime1@xxxxxxx
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 00:28:55 EST
In a message dated 12/3/2004 9:11:27 PM Central Standard Time,
phil.enns@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
I would just add that it is virtually unthinkable that the US
would not maintain some military presence in Iraq.
Hi,
I think they will always, from now until they are dry, control the oil
fields and the military bases they have built... If you read about the bases
they
have built with the swimming pools, great R and R areas for the troops to go
to after their work freeing the nation of Iraq [while not far away there is
no water to drink if you are five years old]--well, definitely you can see
the hearts and minds and souls of our military. They DO deserve the best,
though, since they are defending democracy. (not protecting history or the
people but they have been busy defending democracy. NOT fighting terrorists
who
took down the Twin Towers--but hey. Defending democracy is important too.
Surely the ends justifies the means, right?)
We have already let the history of Iraq be so plundered that it is unlikely
to ever recover. (has anyone else but me been keeping up on that part of the
Iraqi world? The black market is thriving with artifacts stolen and allowed
to be stolen...) There is not much left, so why should we stay, at this
point?
We've stolen (or allowed to be stolen) the artifacts, bombed the historical
sites, killed the young ones, created a disaster (so so cavalier to say that
they 'want' civil war...but I fear that the attitude towards Iraqis is such
that they are, after all, like little children who cannot govern/rule
themselves (We did, after all, have to save them from a tyrant--and their
lives are
so so much healthier for it. It meant, after all, running water, food on the
table, freedom to walk the streets, girls to attend college, a wonderful
medical world--the best in the Middle East just as it was even under the
tyrant,
etc etc. Oh, yes. We did so so much good there and they are but barbarians
who now cannot figure out how to rule themselves...)
I do agree--the US *will* leave, we will still make them pay for the
reconstruction of the destruction we wrought on them, and we will be extremely
irritated at them if they are not suitably grateful. But, 'our boys' will be
back
and we pretty much will forget that we had a hand in destroying so much of
an ancient civilization. We will have 'won' (well, we already have, after
all) and that is all that matters.
Just because the Taliban have retaken many parts of southern Afghanistan,
drug-dealing is at some of the highest levels there, women are still in pretty
horrible horrific situations, etc etc. -- does not negate that the US has
freed Afghanistan and has cleansed it from all problems.
We are heroes there, you know.
What slays me, now, is the whining from my neighbors (you remember, the Bush
supporters) as they have been getting the cute little slips from the Social
Security Administration in the mail and casually and jokingly stating that it
might be the last one they see. Who do they think said he would privatize
Social Security (at the cost now estimated at 1 trillion dollars)?
I really have not figured out what to say to them--but I do wonder why they
would tell ME their feelings when they know that it is Pres Bush and his
cronies who are involved?
People.
Wondering at the hearts of our Leaders (and wondering if next life that they
get to be the Iraqis...ever supposing that my theology is as true as
theirs...<wry look>),
Marlena in Missouri
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