[lit-ideas] Re: The make up of security forces in Iraq

  • From: "Lawrence Helm"<lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:10:41 +0000

As I said, I have worked with military and former military people all my life.  
And you say I'm a "silly man" for not believing anti-American, pacifistic 
attacks against them?  The very nature of pacifism is silly.  I would use a 
stronger word to describe anti-Americans.  And I note once again, once again, 
still and always, never without break attacks against American coupled by no, 
none, zero, NONE against the most vile entity in the world today, Islamism.  It 
is their firm belief that infidels should be killed.  Murder is part of their 
religion and you attack those defending state department officials against 
them?  That is much worse than silly.

Lawrence



------------Original Message------------
From: "Judith Evans" <judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, Sep-19-2007 8:58 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The make up of security forces in Iraq
I see, Lawrence, that your friend in Iraq, having actually known a lot of guys 
in
security forces, knows what I know from reading the papers, part of which I said
in a post yesterday.  I avoided saying how good the Brits were thought to
be, and also, giving the SAS's low opinion of their US counterparts' MO,
because, well, that would have been rude.  But as you opened the door,
I'll say it.


>the Leftists and anti-Americans attacking anything remotely American. 
> But the security forces in Iraq aren't completely American

you are a very silly man, Lawrence.  Blackwater gets attacked because it's
so high profile.  I assure you I am very happy indeed to attack any
British security company there that behaves nefariously and I can assure you,
without asking Mike, that he opposes mercenaries of any nationality.

>"The Brit Army seems to be open to allowing one year
>leave of absence for interested individuals to run off
>and work for high pay

The British armed forces have 'career break' provisions but the 
top security people are probably the ex-SAS and SBS people I
talked about in my post yesterday

Judy Evans, Cardiff


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Lawrence Helm 
To: Lit-Ideas 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 4:07 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] The make up of security forces in Iraq



My friend in Iraq having actually known a lot of guys in security forces has, 
as one might expect, a different perspective than the Leftists and 
anti-Americans attacking anything remotely American.  But the security forces 
in Iraq aren't completely American, so have a care:

"Brits are the largest part of many of these companies,
notably the British owned companies, but they have a
reputation (based on performance) of being superbly
professional. 

"The Brit Army seems to be open to allowing one year
leave of absence for interested individuals to run off
and work for high pay, then return to duty. The
Australian government has been quoted in newspapers as
complaining about the loss of people, more due to the
small size of their pool of specops folks. 

"the biggest plus I saw in the Brits was staying
focused on the job at hand without being distracted by
news from home, personal interests, etc. the South
Africans are even more so but their gov't has cracked
down on their working in Iraq. There is still similar
work all around the world however, to keep them
employed in this type of work." 


Lawrence

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