I am going meta. Apologies to all. Mr. Palma wrote: "Nobody who has an iq above 9 believes [this] junk, rorty?" I object to how posts like the above put an end to conversations, some of which I find interesting. There is nothing wrong with objecting, but there is something uncivil about bringing conversations to a premature end. A thoroughly Rortyian observation, but there you have it. I find Kant, Heidegger and Rorty all very thought-provoking. I don't mind the insults. But if a sustained conversation is impossible because of them, then the good of this list is unclear for me. <End of meta> Phil Enns ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html