[lit-ideas] Re: The de-islamization of Europe

  • From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:14:19 -0800

No, not at all.  Some Christians take certain passages to impose pacifism.
The bulk of Christians throughout history do not.  

 

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So Lawrence is saying that Christianity is correctly understood as "militant
Christianity"? 

And the "militant" isn't a metaphor? Is this what he means?

 

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From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

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Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:18 AM

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> Ursula:

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> Most Christians would agree with what I've written.  Only a small minority

> believes Christianity is pacifistic and that by reading passages in a

> Fundamentalist (Literalist) manner that was never intended by the author.

> Your "flight of fancy" assertion assumes (whether or not you know it) that

> this minority of Christians has the right interpretation and the majority
is

> engaged in a false interpretation.

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> 

> Lawrence

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> -----Original Message-----

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> On Behalf Of Ursula Stange

> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:12 AM

> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The de-islamization of Europe

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> A fine flight of fancy, Lawrence. I suppose if you're going to both

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> believe in war and in Christ's teaching, you'd have to be this creative.

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> Ursula

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> impressed in North Bay

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> Lawrence Helm wrote:

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>> Insofar as your Biblical Analysis is concerned, you seem to take a

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>> Literalist or Fundamentalist approach in order to be dismissive of

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>> Christianity. The slapping of the cheek was considered an insult, not

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>> a personal attack. To understand what is being taught by Jesus, you

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>> need to understand the customs and history - or have someone explain

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>> it to you. This is not a pacifistic teaching. Jesus is teaching that

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>> we should not respond angrily to insults. Since Jesus allowed himself

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>> to be insulted far more than any of us is likely to be, shall we take

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>> offense at the insults we receive? Is a servant more important than

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>> his master? We are encouraged to use Jesus as our example, Jesus "Who,

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>> being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something

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>> to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a

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>> servant. . . Phil 2:6-7.

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>> Lawrence

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> 

 

 

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