[lit-ideas] Re: The beginning of the end in Iraq
- From: "Judith Evans" <judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:29:24 +0100
My impression of the matter is
> this: some Americans (not necessarily leftists) would love
> to see the American troops defeated militarily through
> attrition, defeated in spirit, and brought home in disgrace
> as in Vietnam.
of course that's possible
> If there were to be another Vietnam, then the people whose
> entire worldview was shaped by Vietnam would not have to
> accept new developments into their thinking
you think only one type of "worldview" was shaped by Vietnam? I
prefer to talk of people's views being affected by Vietnam,
affected
in different ways.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Yost" <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:14 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The beginning of the end in Iraq
> >>--people here actually DO seem to want the US to lose
> > > in Iraq.
>
> what does Grange mean by "lose in Iraq"?
>
> _____
>
> Obviously only he can say. My impression of the matter is
> this: some Americans (not necessarily leftists) would love
> to see the American troops defeated militarily through
> attrition, defeated in spirit, and brought home in disgrace
> as in Vietnam. If this were to happen it would validate
> their entire world view.
>
> If there were to be another Vietnam, then the people whose
> entire worldview was shaped by Vietnam would not have to
> accept new developments into their thinking. So I'm talking
> about more than just hating Bush and wanting all of Bush's
> projects to fail: there's a strong current of *alienated
> masochism* here.
>
> Be easy on me in your reply. If I've muddled this post it's
> because I'm tired and have to get on a jet and travel to a
> pleasant country in the morning...though not exactly where
> I'd wish to be in it.
>
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