[lit-ideas] Re: The beginning of the end in Iraq

  • From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:10:49 -0400

He's saying, basically, that we regressed ourselves to WWII style options. 
That's ironic since we seem to be stuck in WWII spiritually.  One wonders
why they're doing multiple rotations of the same troops.  Blaming the media
is the old stand by when things don't go well.  Don't blame the planning,
don't blame the execution.  Blame the media.  Kind of reduces the mighty
U.S. military to think that 3-1/2 years later it's defeated by the media,
don't you think?  Fun fact: Clinton was served about 1,000 subpoenas during
his presidency.  Bush was served with not one subpoena.  Likewise, still
not one hearing on this war.  But if the media is to blame then there
wouldn't be any need for hearings, would there?

> [Original Message]
> From: Eric Yost <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 10/25/2006 4:29:23 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The beginning of the end in Iraq
> As for Andy's ridiculous, alarmist contention that the US is 
> out of troops, here's General Peter Pace on that:
> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1152AP_US_North_Korea_Military.html
> General says U.S. could beat N. Korea
> WASHINGTON -- The U.S. military would prevail in a war 
> against North Korea but at a greater cost in lives than if 
> the United States were not already fighting in Iraq and 
> Afghanistan, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said 
> Tuesday.
> "It would not be as clean as we would like it to be, but it 
> would certainly be sure, and the outcome would not be in 
> doubt," said Gen. Peter Pace.
> He told a Pentagon news conference that the U.S. military 
> has plenty of people available to fight wars beyond Iraq and 
> Afghanistan, but he acknowledged that U.S.-based ground 
> combat units are not fully equipped.
> "We have 2 million folks who can start protecting this 
> nation anywhere else we need them to tomorrow, if we need 
> them to," Pace said when a reporter asked what sort of 
> threat North Korea's military poses.
> The fight, however, would be messier than if the U.S. 
> military did not have 147,000 troops tied up in Iraq and 
> about 20,000 in Afghanistan.
> "It would be more brute force, wherever we might have to go 
> next, than it would be if we weren't already involved in the 
> war we have going on in Iraq and Afghanistan," Pace said. 
> "Why? Because you need precision intelligence to drop 
> precision munitions. And a lot of our precision intelligence 
> assets are currently being used in the Gulf region. So some 
> of those would not be available if you had to go someplace 
> else."
> As a result there would be more unintended damage inflicted, 
> he added.
> "You end up more like a World War II, Korean War campaign," 
> he said, adding that he was not making any predictions. "I'm 
> just saying that, on a scale, you're going to have to use 
> more brute force to get the job done" in North Korea.
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