[lit-ideas] Re: The beginning of the end in Iraq
- From: Eric Yost <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:29:16 -0400
Judy: a) that opposing the war is not "wanting the US to
lose it" b) that the general, well, I've said it, he can
suck it up. Our soldiers have had to do that right from the
start. It's called "being a soldier".
Well, sure, (a) and (b) make perfect sense. What I was
trying to point out--and again this may be an American
thing--people here actually DO seem to want the US to lose
in Iraq. That's what Grange was indicating in his outburst
and also why Lou Dobbs was nodding his head in agreement.
As for Andy's ridiculous, alarmist contention that the US is
out of troops, here's General Peter Pace on that:
General says U.S. could beat N. Korea
By ROBERT BURNS
AP MILITARY WRITER
WASHINGTON -- The U.S. military would prevail in a war
against North Korea but at a greater cost in lives than if
the United States were not already fighting in Iraq and
Afghanistan, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said
"It would not be as clean as we would like it to be, but it
would certainly be sure, and the outcome would not be in
doubt," said Gen. Peter Pace.
He told a Pentagon news conference that the U.S. military
has plenty of people available to fight wars beyond Iraq and
Afghanistan, but he acknowledged that U.S.-based ground
combat units are not fully equipped.
"We have 2 million folks who can start protecting this
nation anywhere else we need them to tomorrow, if we need
them to," Pace said when a reporter asked what sort of
threat North Korea's military poses.
The fight, however, would be messier than if the U.S.
military did not have 147,000 troops tied up in Iraq and
about 20,000 in Afghanistan.
"It would be more brute force, wherever we might have to go
next, than it would be if we weren't already involved in the
war we have going on in Iraq and Afghanistan," Pace said.
"Why? Because you need precision intelligence to drop
precision munitions. And a lot of our precision intelligence
assets are currently being used in the Gulf region. So some
of those would not be available if you had to go someplace
As a result there would be more unintended damage inflicted,
"You end up more like a World War II, Korean War campaign,"
he said, adding that he was not making any predictions. "I'm
just saying that, on a scale, you're going to have to use
more brute force to get the job done" in North Korea.
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