[lit-ideas] Re: The advantage of indeterminism

  • From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 08:13:57 -0800



I read your note yesterday but couldn't get back to the poem until this
morning.  In my mind I was sure I could accept the ambiguity, but this
morning couldn't make it work.  You were right and I modified the poem:


When one like Marlowe or Crane,

            Shelley or Keats has achieved

            His self-determined goals,

            Well, it is time to declare it 

            Done and make room for whoever

            Comes next.  Some of the rest

            Of us however aren't so sure.


            There are goals abounding

           And nights when our hypotheses

            Are rent by witches with sniggers --

            That die away perhaps but are

            Soon replaced to fend off

            Our latest conclusions, the next

            Painting, poem or design.                          


            We rail at critics but were

            It not for them we might

            Think our slight efforts

            Worthy of places along

            Side Byron, Blake and Defoe,

            More insightful than anything

            By Wittgenstein and die.






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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:08 PM
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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The advantage of indeterminism



On Feb 19, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Lawrence Helm wrote:


           And nights with witches rending

            Our hypotheses with sniggers,

            Dying away perhaps but



I was tripped up here and had to go back; my first reading had the
hypotheses dying away.  The rest grabs me.  


We suppress the echoes of critics in order to brighten our caves with
creation, but paying attention to their attenuation, from time to time,
gives the 'umble scribbler a sense of how low in the grand order of things
is his station.  Which prevents uppertiness.


Did you see what Oliver Sacks wrote?

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David Ritchie,

Portland, Oregon

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