Teemu Pyyluoma wrote: >Btw, "Wovon mann nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss >mann schweigen." can be sung. Check >http://geosci.uchicago.edu/%7Ertp1/nordic/music/uusi/numminen.html > "The Tao that can be told of is not the eternal Tao." "Wei Wu Wei." Creative Quietude. These seem to be quite foreign to Wittgenstein's inner life, but I would like to suggest that "to keep silence" may not just be the negative of "to speak." There is a whole tradition of "keeping silent" that does NOT result in any kind of propositions whatsoever, and yet is not just an absence of speech. Silence is itself something, and it appears as quite a precious "thing" in Taoism and Christian quetism and monastic practices. Whether there are "truths" of silence seems irrelevant; silence itself is something to be kept, and knowing the limits of language may help one "keep silence" better. I've said enough. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html