In a message dated 2/25/2013 10:29:48 A.M. UTC-02, donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx quotes from Magee "I sometimes think there are two Wagners in our culture" and offers: "I sometimes think there are three Graces [in our culture]" Well, Grice 1 could well be the 1/3 of Grice's life (He was born in 1913, and died in 1988, so calculate). Grice 2 could well be the second 1/3 of his life (if not times). Grice 3 could be the lattest or latter Grice (up to Grice's death, which would not be included. With Wittgenstein, we hold that one's death is not part of one's life -- "Tractatus logico-philosophicus", in the 4n region). O. T. O. H., the "principium individuationis" of the so-called Graces is oh so much more complicated Cheers, Speranza ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html