>But then Garner is a descriptivist so perhaps Prof. Paul finds himself more in sympathy with Fowler, a prescriptivist curmudgeon?< Indeed he do. I thank Phil for the report from the so-called 'Dictionary of American Usage.' It's interesting that Garner believes that more teeth are set on edge in the US than in the UK by 'A person who...will find that their...' and related constructions. I'd have guessed it was the other way about, given Americans' hard-wired indifference to most questions of grammar and style. (Style?) What bothers this particular curmudgeon is that the same people who write 'If someone...then...they...' will not hesitate to write 'If a woman (man)...then...she (he)...' It's only when the introductory pronoun is genderless that 'they' and 'their' are used to do the subsequent referential work. (At least this is my sense of how things are.) It may be that Garner is remarking on a tendency as if it were unrelated to the question of which gendered pronoun should be the pronoun of choice, and perhaps it is--now. My intuition is that it wasn't initially, but fell out of a rebellion against using 'he' to follow 'someone,' and 'a man' as the person of choice in examples, e.g. 'a man who...,' 'When a man is tired of London...,' etc. If this is not the case, then I find the illogical substitution of 'they' for 'someone' even more alarming. (No doubt Grice addresses this issue in his Nachlass.) Robert Paul Easily alarmed, somewhere south of Reed College ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html