But the Christian notion of original sin isn't just that the sins of the fathers are visited upon the children. It's that when the original sin was committed, it fated all of mankind to bear the quality of sinfulness ... sort of like a DNA thing. Judaism asserts that each individual from the beginning of time has a choice to sin or not to .... that they are not inherently tainted with the inability to not sin. My question to my local rabbi friend has always been, if every single human has had the choice not to commit evil, why has not one single one chosen that. Julie Krueger ========Original Message======== Subj: [lit-ideas] Re: The Problem of Evil Date: 3/9/06 11:31:01 A.M. Central Standard Time From: _andreas@xxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx) To: _lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent on: > ... the question of original sin. Christianity teaches it, Judaism refutes it. The christian idea of "original sin" is based on the concept of "generational curse" (or "generational punishment.") In modern society, a man robs a bank, he goes to jail (well, actually, he becomes a White House appointee to Iraq). In biblical times, he would be punished, and his family as well for the next seven generations. The sons of sons of the sons would be punished for the errors of the grandfather. Classical China had this as well. If someone was found guilty of a crime, he would be executed, along with all male sons over the age of 16, and the females and under-age sons would be turned into slaves and given the military. The family estates would be confiscated, and if the crime was severe, the ancestor shrines would be destroyed and the bones of ancestors disinterred and exposed to the weather. The most extreme example of generational punishment is of course the christian god's curse on humanity: all of Adam's offspring (all humans) are collectively punished for Adam's error. So, to refute orignal sin, one only needs to remove the idea of generational punishment. Why should I be punished for an act by somenone else? We don't accept generational punishment anymore, so the idea of original sin has no basis as well. yrs, andreas www.andreas.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html