My son went to Reed -- two e's. There was no need for panty raids because the bathrooms were co-ed and skinny-dipping on hikes was the norm. Classrooms were a place for serious intellectual skinny-dipping. The panty raid was a bourgeois undertaking. But the story about Hatfield was terrific, and I too hope he recovers. Harold Hungerford On Sep 27, 2004, at 9:17 PM, David Ritchie wrote: Last week I attended a scholarly presentation on the history of student activism on Western small college campuses in the Vietnam protest era: specifically Whitman and Pomona Colleges, and Willammette University. There was much talk of Reid's expererience in the discussion period, and of the breakaway group of faculty from Reid who subsequently joined the fledgling Evergreen faculty, history that Robert Paul may or may not want to tell us about. The thesis of the presentation was that activism in small colleges was comparable in proportional numbers to activism at say Berkeley and UCSD, but was different in kind, more like a family fight than a political confrontation. You may want to take issue with the thesis. Here is what I took from the talk: one slight image from history that might make a good scene in a work of fiction. We are witnessing a "panty raid" at Willammette University. Youngster that I am, I hadn't heard of "panty raids." As I understand what I was told, women would hang trophy undies from forbidden windows, so encouraging transgression by males, encouraging a crossing of lines that marked "go" and "no-go" zones of the "in loco parentis" era. Rumor flew around campus that a major incursion was being planned, a trip into the demilitarized zone of under garments. Males lined up at the jump-off line, only to be confronted by...Dean Mark Hatfield, who put a stop to the venture by using skills that would later stand him in good stead as a politician; he identified individually many of the students who lurked in shadows. Senator Mark Hatfield currently lies in intensive care, having fallen after visiting a medical facility in Washington D.C., named in his honor. I wish him well. David Ritchie Portland, Oregon ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html