[lit-ideas] Re: The Philosophy of Law

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  • Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 08:46:35 -0400

Baker wrote "Meaning and Defeasibility"
 
And the question arose as to what 'defeasible' applies to. 
 
O. K. says he has no problem with defeasibility as applied to reasoning.  
This reminds me of S. Levinson. In his "Pragmatics", he quotes from Grice. 
The  title of Grice's unpublication that Levinson quotes is,
 
"Defeasibility, Probability, and Mood Operators".

It turned out that, given Grice's handwriting, what Grice meant  was
 
"Desirability, Probability, and Mood Operators"
 
So there!
 
----
 
Actually, Hart got a reprimand from J. L. Austin (who was his junior) when  
he borrowed 'defeasible' from 
Hart of course drew the concept (or adjective) 'defeasible' from property  
law.
 
So it is THERE we should look for concrete examples. Although the example  
given by Hart is 'contract'. There are others. In fact ALL legal concepts, 
are,  ceteris paribus, defeasible. 
 
He was reprimanded by J. L. Austin because Hart had the good cheek to say  
that we do not "use" 'defeasible' in ordinary language (which to J. L. 
Austin  carried the implicature, "And which thus would refute all your approach 
to  Oxonian analysis and your beloved linguistic botany). J. L. Austin said 
that  Hart was allowed to use 'defeasible' provided it _sounded_ nice.
 
Hart writes that there is a 
 
"characteristic of legal concepts" "for which no word exists  in ordinary 
English."
 
Indeed, it did not exist in Anglo-Saxon law -- if there was one. It may  
have existed in Roman law (the Romans roamed and there were constantly 
acquiring  new properties, and they defeated, too -- In fact, Oxford was Roman, 
once). 
 
Hart goes on:
 
"The words "conditional" and "negative" have the wrong implications"
 
He means implicatures -- or rather, they 'trigger' the wrong implications.  
They may have the wrong _connotations_ (but Hart never paid much attention 
to  Mill's System of Logic that he had to read for his BA Oxon Lit. Hum).
 
Hart goes on
 
"but the law has a word which Hart borrows" ('and never returns,' quips  
Geary). He had learned the word while at the Chancery (after leaving Oxford 
with  his BA Oxon Lit Hum and taking his law examinations and being called a 
law. He  had a law practice for years). 
 
Hart goes on:
 
"This is the word [adjective -- Speranza] "defeasible", used of a legal  
interest in property which is subject to termination or "defeat" in a  number 
of different contingencies but  remains intact if no such  contingencies 
mature. In this sense, then, "contract" is a defeasible  concept."
 
Why property lawyers found 'defeasible' apt was very _apt_. 
 
McEvoy's adage is true -- even if he meant it as a joke -- "Some jokes are  
true, you know"
 
"The application of defeasability has long been shown to be  defeasible."
 
"Defeasible" compares to 'heterological', which Russell loved*
 
---- INTERLUDE ON "HETEROLOGICAL" as it compares to Hart's borrowing,  
"DEFEASIBLE" 
 
An adjective is autological (sometimes homological) if and only if it  
describes itself. For example "short" is autological, since the word "short" is 
 
a short word. "English," "unhyphenated" and "pentasyllabic" are also  
autological. An adjective is heterological if it does not describe itself. 
Hence  
"long" is a heterological word (because it is not a long word), as are  
"unwritten" and "monosyllabic". All adjectives, it would seem, must be either  
autological or heterological, for each adjective either describes itself, or 
it  doesn't. Problems arise in a number of instances, however:
Is "heterological" a heterological word?
no → "heterological" is  autological → "heterological" describes itself → 
"heterological" is  heterological, contradiction
yes → "heterological" does not describe itself →  "heterological" is not 
heterological, contradiction
 
----- END OF INTERLUDE
 
For indeed: 
 
'Defeasible' is defeasible. 
 
Or, if you are a conceptual analyst:
 
Defeasible is 'defeasible'.
 
The latter Popper would avoid, since he did not do, due to  some conceptual 
fear for 'essences', 'right to left'. 
 
Cheers,
 
Speranza

In a message dated 3/11/2015 3:27:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx quotes fom O. K.:
>Not to be a conceptual  analyst's conceptual analyst, but it might be nice 
to see a couple of concrete  examples that show how legal concepts are 
defeasible. I can see legal arguments  being defeasible, but less so concepts.>
and comments:
"But the  application of defeasability has long been shown to be 
defeasible, didn't you  know?"




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