Baker wrote "Meaning and Defeasibility" And the question arose as to what 'defeasible' applies to. O. K. says he has no problem with defeasibility as applied to reasoning. This reminds me of S. Levinson. In his "Pragmatics", he quotes from Grice. The title of Grice's unpublication that Levinson quotes is, "Defeasibility, Probability, and Mood Operators". It turned out that, given Grice's handwriting, what Grice meant was "Desirability, Probability, and Mood Operators" So there! ---- Actually, Hart got a reprimand from J. L. Austin (who was his junior) when he borrowed 'defeasible' from Hart of course drew the concept (or adjective) 'defeasible' from property law. So it is THERE we should look for concrete examples. Although the example given by Hart is 'contract'. There are others. In fact ALL legal concepts, are, ceteris paribus, defeasible. He was reprimanded by J. L. Austin because Hart had the good cheek to say that we do not "use" 'defeasible' in ordinary language (which to J. L. Austin carried the implicature, "And which thus would refute all your approach to Oxonian analysis and your beloved linguistic botany). J. L. Austin said that Hart was allowed to use 'defeasible' provided it _sounded_ nice. Hart writes that there is a "characteristic of legal concepts" "for which no word exists in ordinary English." Indeed, it did not exist in Anglo-Saxon law -- if there was one. It may have existed in Roman law (the Romans roamed and there were constantly acquiring new properties, and they defeated, too -- In fact, Oxford was Roman, once). Hart goes on: "The words "conditional" and "negative" have the wrong implications" He means implicatures -- or rather, they 'trigger' the wrong implications. They may have the wrong _connotations_ (but Hart never paid much attention to Mill's System of Logic that he had to read for his BA Oxon Lit. Hum). Hart goes on "but the law has a word which Hart borrows" ('and never returns,' quips Geary). He had learned the word while at the Chancery (after leaving Oxford with his BA Oxon Lit Hum and taking his law examinations and being called a law. He had a law practice for years). Hart goes on: "This is the word [adjective -- Speranza] "defeasible", used of a legal interest in property which is subject to termination or "defeat" in a number of different contingencies but remains intact if no such contingencies mature. In this sense, then, "contract" is a defeasible concept." Why property lawyers found 'defeasible' apt was very _apt_. McEvoy's adage is true -- even if he meant it as a joke -- "Some jokes are true, you know" "The application of defeasability has long been shown to be defeasible." "Defeasible" compares to 'heterological', which Russell loved* ---- INTERLUDE ON "HETEROLOGICAL" as it compares to Hart's borrowing, "DEFEASIBLE" An adjective is autological (sometimes homological) if and only if it describes itself. For example "short" is autological, since the word "short" is a short word. "English," "unhyphenated" and "pentasyllabic" are also autological. An adjective is heterological if it does not describe itself. Hence "long" is a heterological word (because it is not a long word), as are "unwritten" and "monosyllabic". All adjectives, it would seem, must be either autological or heterological, for each adjective either describes itself, or it doesn't. Problems arise in a number of instances, however: Is "heterological" a heterological word? no → "heterological" is autological → "heterological" describes itself → "heterological" is heterological, contradiction yes → "heterological" does not describe itself → "heterological" is not heterological, contradiction ----- END OF INTERLUDE For indeed: 'Defeasible' is defeasible. Or, if you are a conceptual analyst: Defeasible is 'defeasible'. The latter Popper would avoid, since he did not do, due to some conceptual fear for 'essences', 'right to left'. Cheers, Speranza In a message dated 3/11/2015 3:27:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx quotes fom O. K.: >Not to be a conceptual analyst's conceptual analyst, but it might be nice to see a couple of concrete examples that show how legal concepts are defeasible. I can see legal arguments being defeasible, but less so concepts.> and comments: "But the application of defeasability has long been shown to be defeasible, didn't you know?" ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html