[lit-ideas] Re: The Philosophy of Law

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It all sort of started when McEvoy remarked,
 
"Though I did not bother to  make explicit the importance of a case  like 
Pilcher for any viable 'theory of  knowledge', I think anyone  re-reading 
those old posts might see they present a  challenge to anyone  who thinks 'law' 
can be grasped via a Lockean kind of  empiricism, or a  Cartesian 
'intuitionism'
etc."
 
This was re: what we might call a Popperian approach to the philosophy of  
law, that makes uses of W3.3. items, etc. 
 
I mentioned that we should not forget the work of H. L. A. Hart along with  
Popper, "Lockean empiricism" or Cartesian intuitionism". It struck me that 
Hart  (qua member of J. L. Austin's Play Group) made a different headstart, 
if that's  the expression, by looking at ordinary language. 
 
O. K. was asking:
 
>So, what did Hart elucidate, that court procedures are really just  
language  
>games?
 
Well, yes, and cross-examination has a lot to deal with this -- it's rules  
of argumentation at play, as Alexy would put it.
 
When I referred to the 'ordinary language' approach as the 'right'  
approach, McEvoy 'took issue', if that's the expression
 
In a message dated 3/3/2015 2:35:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
This is not at all the right approach: and  nor is Twining's "How To Do 
Things With Rules", with its conscious echo of J.L.  Austin's "How To Do Things 
With Words".

Well, it may depend on what  Twining means by rules. Searle's distinction 
regulative-constitutive, drawing on  Anscombe's brute-institutional may have 
a lot to do with it. And curiously, J.  L. Austin's early theory started 
with the idea of operative (or performative)  which he apparently took from 
Scots law. 
 
McEvoy continues:

"There may be some validity in Hart's criticisms of others, including  John 
Austin, but Hart's central notion to his "Concept of Law" is the "rule of  
recognition""
 
Hart mentions two other types of rules too. And I was referring to the  
central notion being methodological: to start with what ordinary language says  
about these things. (Hart was the right person here, since he started his 
career  as a philosopher, but for some reason, doubted he was a good one, and 
ended up  as professor of Jurisprudence, which is not _exactly_ what this 
subject header  reads, "The Philosophy of Law". 
 
McEvoy continues:
 
"and the "rule of recognition" not only turns out to be analytically empty  
(because it rests on a circularity, as MacCormick showed)"
 
A language, when formalised, may need an axiom or two, and these are  
regarded as analytic and rightly so. After all, Oxford ordinary language  
philosophy is considered a branch of (Anglo-American sort of style) "analytic"  
philosophy -- so, bringing in an element of analyticity here need not be looked 
 down as bringing in mere vicious circularity.
 
McEvoy goes on:
 
"but it is pure fiction (to add, perhaps, to the all the fictions Maitland  
said were the main constituents of English Law). It is a historical fiction 
-  i.e. it cannot be traced in the history of the law;"
 
Well, philosophers are allowed to play this game. They are supposed to  
postulate 'rational reconstructions' of things. They are into analysis, not 
into  'history', which is contingent. They are not into the 'genetic' aspects 
of  validation, say -- but in the theoretical basis of validation per se. I 
am  speaking loosely, but this idea that philosophers propose 'myths' of this 
and  that can be traced back to Plato (I know: an author Popper disliked).
 
McEvoy goes on:
 
"but most importantly"
 
And I agree this is the 'most importantly', too:
 
McEvoy:
 
"[Hart's rule of recognition -- one among two other types of ryles] is a  
cognitive-epistemic fiction - i.e. it plays no part in how people, including  
lawyers, recognise what is law from what is not. Far from being "RIGHT", 
this  approach could hardly be more wrong. It rests on a mistaken theory of 
legal  knowledge and a mistaken philosophical theory of the purpose and 
validity of a  'philosophy of law', when we no more need a "rule of 
recognition" 
for law than  car-mechanics need one to tell apart what they do from 
painting.""
 
I haven't explored the philosophy of car mechanics, but I would imagine  
that if I were a car mechanic, I would know how to paint a car -- Part of  
repairing a car may well involve _painting_ the car. So, in the philosophy of  
car mechanics, there may be a sub-chapter for the philosophy of car 
painting,  for example.
 
(I once ordered a book on sail painting -- I forget the actual title --  
thinking it would be an examination of Turner's technique, and it turned out 
to  be a book on how to paint boats).
 
So, we have two keywords here:
 
'rule' -- and perhaps Hart _is_ misusing the word. 
 
'recognition' -- whatever Hart posited as being the mechanisms of  
recognition it may well be that the philosopher of law does need to 'recognise' 
 
this 'regulation' or that other. 
 
McEvoy refers to:

>a mistaken philosophical theory of the purpose ... of a 'philosophy  of 
law'.
 
Well, I would think that there are philosophers of law. While the subject  
header indeed reads "The Philosophy of Law", this is pretty much an 
abstraction.  Rather, what we have is a philosopher of law and another 
philosopher 
of law. 
 
And we have to recognise them. 
 
Hart's concept of law may well be _his_ own idiosyncratic analysis of _his_ 
 concept of law, which may not work for others. There is tolerance in 
analytic  philosophy. And McCormick's criticism (in a book which is supposed to 
give a  historical account of Hart's philosophy) may not be the last word 
about  it.
 
Shapiro, for example, at 
 
http://www.law.yale.edu/documents/pdf/Intellectual_Life/Shapiro_RuleOfRecogn
ition.pdf

is  never so negative about Hart's results. In the concluding section, he 
proposes  an alternate to Hart's conceptualisation, which he does not dismiss 
as Oxonian  nonsense per se.
 
There may be other keywords when we examine Hart's work. My favourite is  
that of DEFEASIBILITY, on which G. P. Baker concentrates in his contribution 
to  the Hart festschrift ed. by Raz ("Meaning and Defeasibility").
 
And a full examination of Hart's philosophy of law may bring us back to  
Peirce! In his review of Holloway's "Language and Intelligence", when Hart was 
 yet a philosopher and not a teacher of jurisprudence he cares to examine 
what we  mean when we speak of words (and laws are made of words) as being 
'signs' -- in  a footnote, just in passing, he mentions his acknowledgment to 
participation to  philosopher (or one philosopher, specifically) who was a 
member of J. L.  Austin's Play Group.
 
One big advantage that Hart had is that he got to know J. L. Austin _so  
well_! Not just on Saturday mornings, but Thursday evenings, too!* (*The  
reference here is to the two groups Austin led, one on Thursdays, before the  
War, and another on Saturday mornings, after it).
 
It is understood in Hart's approach that the role of the philosopher of law 
 is to provide an analysis of 'legal' concepts as a first step. A second 
step is  to provide an analysis of 'legal' reasoning, and how much of it 
depends on  axioms like the admittedly theoretical and perhaps misnamed 'rule 
of  
recognition'. Another keyword may be: POSITIVISM, which was Hart's style, 
and  which, as per a sort of paradigm-shift, has become more of a NATURALISM 
in  today's philosophy of law.
 
Cheers,
 
Speranza
 
 
----
 
'linguistic botany'. It was H. L. A. Hart who, in the 1950s made a  
concerted effort to use developments in philosophy of language to ‘elucidate’  
the 
nature of law. Hart did so with an enthusiasm for the work of Oxford  ‘
ordinary language’ philosophers such as J. L. Austin (and other members   of 
Austin's Play Group). 



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