[lit-ideas] Re: The Order of Aurality (ratification of fiction?)
- From: "palma@xxxxxxxxxx" <palmaadriano@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 13:52:22 +0200
what is mysterious is why everyone has passion for discovering the cooking
power of fire.
both John Locke, in his Essay and Ned Block in countless essays explored
the issue-
it has nothing to do with gavagai--
in fact the experiment is performable and performed
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Walter C. Okshevsky <wokshevs@xxxxxx>wrote:
> Yes, specifying the colours serves to focus the question more clearly. But
> my
> epistemological conundrum remains.
>
> Imagine: What everybody calls and sees as "red," Walter sees as "green" but
> calls it "red" because everybody else does. And what everybody calls and
> sees
> "green" Walter sees and calls "red" because everybody else does. (Go
> figure,
> Robert Brandom.) In this scenario, which is logically and empirically
> possible,
> there does not seem to be a way of detecting this visual and linguistic
> discrepancy. But it remains an actual possibility. Perhaps something like
> Quine's "gavagai" example?
>
> Hoping that Dan soon learns you your coulours, Walter
>
> P.S. Re Palin/Obama: She's probably thinking she can get Obama to roll his
> eyes
> upwards a sufficient number of times during the debate to win it. If it
> worked
> for Al Gore vs George W, why not for her?
>
>
> Quoting Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
> > Sorry -- sent privately when I intended to send to the list. That seems
> to
> > be the thing to do today.
> >
> > Julie Krueger
> >
> > Odd. Just today I had a conversational todo when I asked Dan if he liked
> > the new blue sheets. He asked where they were. On the bed. The gray
> > sheets?, he says. No, the blue sheets currently on the bed, says I.
> >
> > I understand there are lots of nuances of colors, hues, shades, tones,
> and
> > other such vagaries out there. I should have said that I would be
> > surprised if any child two years of age didn't know basic primary and
> > secondary colors -- red, blue, yellow, green, orange, purple.
> >
> > On a totally unrelated note, Palin has challenged Obama to a debate....
> I
> > don't even know what to DO with that thought.
> >
> > Julie Krueger
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Walter C. Okshevsky <wokshevs@xxxxxx
> >wrote:
> >
> > > My wife insists that what I call "pale blue" is actually "grey." And
> she's
> > > quite
> > > amazed at how consistently I make that mistake. I'm equally amazed by
> the
> > > fact
> > > that what she sees as "grey" is actually "pale blue." Now I ask you,
> who
> > > here
> > > really "knows" their colours and who is mistaken? And don't forget
> that in
> > > Montreal, drivers understand that "yellow" is "green but be quick about
> > > it."
> > >
> > > Walter O
> > > MUN
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > >
> > > > In my experience, children much, MUCH younger than 7 know their
> colors.
> > > > I'm surprised if children who are two don't.
> > > >
> > > > Julie Krueger
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Why not?
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *From:* Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > *To:* lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2012 8:41 PM
> > > > > *Subject:* [lit-ideas] Re: The Order of Aurality (ratification of
> > > > > fiction?)
> > > > >
> > > > > Surely you didn't mean to say quite this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Julie Krueger
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think abstract reasoning kicks in about at about age seven or so.
> > > Does
> > > > > a child that young even know colors?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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