[lit-ideas] Re: The Leftist Claim
- From: Teemu Pyyluoma <teme17@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 04:30:39 -0700 (PDT)
Without getting into specifics of Iraq war and its opposition, in general the
idea that people opposing something must by association in opposition share
some other beliefs is so absurd Podhoretz's editor ought to be publicly flogged
for it. Even people pro something tend to have a wide range of agendas.
Let's take a less charged issue as an example. Where I live, there is a debate
whether a car tunnel should be dug under the city of Helsinki. Some opponents
do not want it, because it encourages and increases private car usage, some
simply balk at the cost, others point out that the same amount of money could
be used to improve public transportation, then there are those who want it used
for other roads, people living near proposed tunnel exits fear increased
traffice, etc. And this is an extremely simple issue compared to a war.
Cheers,
Teemu
Helsinki, Finland
----- Original Message ----
From: Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Lit-Ideas <Lit-Ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:03:45 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] The Leftist Claim
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Of course Leftists, including Lit-Ideas Leftists, wouldn't portray
themselves as Podhoretz and Cohen have done. Podhoretz address this on
page 100:
"Of course, the claim was that most such people were neither pro-Saddam nor
anti-American: all they wanted was to 'give peace a chance.' But this
claim was belied by the slogans, the body language, the speeches, and the
manifestos of the 'peace' party. Though hatred of America may not have
been universal among opponents of American military action, it was obviously
very widespread and very deep. And though other considerations (pacifist
sentiment, concern about civilian casualties, contempt for George W. Bush,
faith
in the UN, etc.) were at work, these factors had no trouble coexisting
harmoniously with extreme hostility to the United States."
Lawrence
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