[lit-ideas] Re: The IPT on CAIR
- From: "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:24:42 -0500
LH:
>>I posted this note because I found the Fatwa provocative and amusing, <<
So that was your point! I wondered if it might not be, but I wasn't sure,
that's why I asked what your point was. Why didn't you just say that to begin
with? Your original post was something meant for the like-minded, not an
argument about anything. I send things like that every now and then myself,
mine are usually addressed to a different mind-set of course. Like Judy, I
don't see any justification for calling anything you posted a fatwa, but I
understand why you might use that term in a "here these clowns go again" kind
of posting to the choir. From the beginning I was inclined to believe that you
weren't trying to sway anyone's mind with the post, just amuse those who agree
with you. But I wasn't sure if that was the case or whether you were issuing a
call to arms in defence of Spencer. You've made it pretty clear though that
you don't think Spencer is worth reading because he's said all he has to say in
his book titles. OK, I can relax now and give you some space to do your thing.
Mike Geary
Memphis
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Helm
To: Lit-Ideas
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 10:06 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] The IPT on CAIR
http://www.investigativeproject.org/
According to the House Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on
Terrorism, Congressman Peter Hoekstra "the Investigative Project on Terrorism
has performed a true public service in compiling this material . . ."
I posted some material the Investigative Project on Terrorism compiled on
CAIR, but it may not have made it onto Lit-Ideas -- at least it didn't appear
in my in basket. So here is just the web site.
http://www.investigativeproject.org/FCNA-CAIR.html
To keep what is happening in perspective, I have maintained (along with
Horowitz and Spencer) that the Left is supportive of Islamism. Notice what
happened when I posted a note entitled
Here it is again in its entirety (the note that so offended two of Lit-Ideas'
Leftists):
[One of the most active anti-Islamists I've run across is Robert Spencer. He
wrote such books as The Myth of Islamic Tolerance: How Islamic Law Treats
Non-Muslims, Religion of Peace?; Why Christianity is and Islam isn't, The
Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades), and The Truth about
Muhammad: Founder of the World's Most Intolerant Religion.
Anyway, the Islamists have had enough of him. They've filed a lawsuit
against him: "A powerful Washington, D.C. law firm told YAF that Robert was,
in essence, a hate-filled liar and that CAIR had ordered the law firm "to purse
every available and appropriate legal remedy to redress any false and
defamatory statements that made" at the conference." [sic]
And I suppose to distance themselves from the hate-filled Spencer, they've
issued a fatwa: "May Allah rip out his spine from his back and split his
brains in two, and then put them both back, and then do it over and over."
You've got to love their thought processes: You say we aren't peaceful and
tolerant? You can't get away with that: May Allay rip out your spine from your
back and split your brains in two, and then put them back, and then do it over
and over. You've got to love it.
Lawrence
ps: Where did I get this information? I was sent a letter asking me to
contribute to Spencer's legal defense fund. It was in that letter.]
but Mike the Leftist didn't find it amusing and called Spencer an intolerant
bigot for the titles of his books, and Judy the Leftist quibbled about whether
this was truly a fatwa or merely a threat and as the details of the
FrontPageMag letter came more to light, she defended CAIR by claiming that none
of its founding members had ever been in jail. Neither of them were interested
in the assertion that the lawyer employed to go after Spencer with all possible
means was the General Counsel for the Democratic National Committee. Judy
attacked Spencer by making light of the legal actions instituted against him
and making a disparaging comparison with someone she thinks more deserving.
In short, they attack Spencer and Horowitz for their anti-Jihadist,
anti-Islamists efforts and Judy has gone further and defends CAIR. In other
words, down with those who attack the Jihadists and Islamists and up with an
Islamist-supporting organization.
Lawrence
Congressman Peter Hoekstra,
Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence
Congressman Peter Hoekstra,
Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence
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