Perhaps we SHOULD discuss Heidegger. Grice calls him "the greatest living philosopher" when he delivered the William James Lectures in Philosophy (and Psychology) back in Harvard in 1967. He was illustrating, "believe what I say". "On the condition that you are assuming I'm being sincere in what I say, if I utter, "Heidegger is the greatest living philosopher", what I mean-nn by it (rather than merely mean-n it -- [nn: nonnatural, n: natural), you should believe that I do BELIEVE that Heidegger is the greatest living philosopher. Or not, as McEvoy would say (*) Today, it would not make _sense_ to say that Heidegger is the greatest living philosopher (for obvious reasons, check Wiki for exact date of his material death). Cheers Speranza * McEvoy was using "or not" in ways that D. Helm did NOT found redundant (he used his example with his dog, "Are you staying in, or not?" (i.e. going out). Etc. In a message dated 3/15/2013 4:34:56 A.M. UTC-02, cblitid@xxxxxxxx writes: Martin Heidegger's was made with great care [Sorge]; always freshly Ground [of Being]. (I believe he got the recipe through Hannah from her grandmother.) And as to 'orange marmalade' ... I'm warning you: don't go there ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html