In a message dated 2/2/2005 1:54:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, goya@xxxxxxx writes: like certain peoples de=20 l'autre c=F4t=E9 de la Manche. M Chase writes. Where _exactly_ is _la Manche_? In Spanish, they speak of 'El canal de la Mancha', but I don't think that's the 'Mancha' from where Don Quixote hailed? The English call it 'The English Channel', but surely that's political, too? I wonder if in Norman (Plantagenet) England, it was known as "Manche"? Cheers, JL ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html