--- wokshevs@xxxxxx wrote: > False. Only self-conscious, autonomous beings whose physical nature is > holistically integrated with their connative, cognitive and spiritual > natures, > are capable of the eros and dignity that is genuine human sexuality. Can this be paraphrased? > False. Only self-conscious, autonomous beings.." Only human beings with their special capacities.. > are capable of the eros and dignity that is genuine human sexuality. are capable of genuine human sexuality. In so far as animal sexuality might seem to share some features with human sexuality these features are only superficially similar as they are devoid of what humans bring to sexuality with their special human capacities. Therefore outside of human sexuality, we must conclude that.. >All else > is mere reproduction in Darwin's sense of natural and sexual selection. As it happens I tend to agree with the view that humans that are probably the most sexually obsessed species we know: for most species sex is merely a functional urge to reproduce. But this does not mean that human sexuality is devoid of or free from the 'functional urge to reproduce' [even if it is often in a somewhat sophisticated and disguised form] nor that human sexuality stands apart from 'natural and sexual selection'. Human male/female differences, for example - and excluding parts of Eastern Europe and Asia, naturally - the relative hairlessness of the female, are surely products of sexual selection, as are many other physical and indeed non-physical traits. Human sex may be compared to human singing: we may bring spirituality or whatever to an act that many other animals also perform and there may be important differences between the human and animal act in this regard, but without the kind of physical and biological bases that underpin both human and animal acts and which we get from descent-with-modification via a common ancestor, there would be no human sex and no human singing. Donal Research conducted via survey in a gay bar __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html