"Is the writer aware of dolphins bullying sharks? It's been on tv. As to legalese perhaps it's because it slimes with sleaze. --- Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx wrote: > Why Lawyers are Sharks > > Donal -- who's been to the bar Don't know who told you that, but anyway the next round is yours. Donal" ---- With pleasure. In any case, I apologise. I never meant a word. Lawyers are certainly more prestigious than philosophers in _any_ *conceivable* society -- including 500 B. C. Athens --. The proof is glyptothetick. Thus, while Socrates was bald and ugly and dirty and wore no shoes, etc. -- I never tried to _imitate_ *him* -- I just found what he _said_ *sort of* interesting -- you can at most get a bust of the ugly man to display at the swimming-pool library. Whereas Demosthenes -- the first Greek lawyer -- was pretty attractive, and gay too -- I only own one Loeb by Demosthenes. It's called "Eroticon", and it's all about his lover and how he loved him. It's pretty embarrassing to read, but then he did. A statue of Demosthenes is going for: $ 119 -- at _http://www.ancientsculpturegallery.com/255.html_ (http://www.ancientsculpturegallery.com/255.html) Have a look. Item No. 255 Weight 1 Lb. W: 3.25" H: 12" D: 3.25" Made of cast stone, hand finished with antique finished. It's not so bad. He is not naked, mind. He is holding something in his hand. Looks slightly phallic but it's not a phallus, more like a roll of a speech he's about to read. He's looking down, and wears nice sandals. Demosthenes was supposed such a good lawyer -- that he commanded the 'laws of nature' (nomoi phuseos) too and once -- he had a sailing competition -- convinced the tide to go up. This was photographed by Delacroix at _http://www.art.com/asp/sp-asp/_/PD--12963935/SP--A/IGID--2200020/Demosthenes_ Harangues_the_Waves_Frescos_from_the_Spandrels_of_the_Main_Hall.htm?sOrig=CRT& sOrigId=124&ui=A1660C06744249758824FEEA1E9717FE_ (http://www.art.com/asp/sp-asp/_/PD--12963935/SP--A/IGID--2200020/Demosthenes_Harangues_the_Waves_Frescos_f rom_the_Spandrels_of_the_Main_Hall.htm?sOrig=CRT&sOrigId=124&ui=A1660C06744249 758824FEEA1E9717FE) and it's going for $179. So how can I hate a lawyer or have anything against her -- when they model after Demosthenes? And the 'shark' quote was stupid. From Captain Marryat himself. The OED is cryptical there, it says, "shark, fig. NAUT. a lawyer". Which was strange, since I first learned of the Americanism "lawyers are called sharks" by a Jewish New Yorker! Anyway -- The Temple is supposed to be nice. Many Loebs are tr. by "barrister-at-laws" -- The one I'm reading now is, Aristophanes's Clouds. And also Martial's Epigrams. The latter was tr. by Mr. Ker, barrister-in-law, etc. Oddly when the edition was repr. all his qualifications were dropped. The intro. is still signed as being written from the Templar, and there is some obscure reference which I fail to detect. But then Socrates is _full_ of obscure references that I fail to detect. Dolphins can be silly. Always smiling, and certainly promiscuous. Aristotle classifies 'dolphins' -- in his "Progression of Animals" (Loeb) as 'a kind of fish', along with whales and lobsters. I forget if he has sharks. Most of his zoological knowledge (I'm using the term Popperianly here, 'zoological') came from his tutee, Alexander Magnus. Cheers, JL **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)