In a message dated 3/27/2014 8:47:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Despite what Chris writes, I think it may be doubted that many of the philosophers who oppose "scientism" see that they are merely opposing a fictional view of "science" itself. It may do to refresh this quote by Grice below. The Devil of Scientism implicates that Scientism is a Devil. "She is a devil". Or "It is a devil" usually implicates that something other is NOT -- e.g. "Her sister is an angel". On the other hand, the devil himself is said to have been a 'fallen angel', which incidentally, in the plural, is the title of a play by Noel Coward. So I never know. Or not. Cheers, Speranza Grandy, Richard E. and Warner, Richard, "Paul Grice", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Spring 2014 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.), forthcoming URL = <http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/spr2014/entries/grice/>. quoting Grice, "Method in Philosophical Psychology: from the banal to the bizarre" (Address as President to the American Philosophical Association, Pacific Branch -- repr. in Conception of Value): "We must be ever watchful against the Devil of scientism, who would lead us into myopic overconcentration on the nature and importance of knowledge, and of scientific knowledge in particular; the Devil who is even so audacious as to tempt us to call in question the very system of ideas require to make intelligible the idea of calling in question anything at all; and who would even prompt us, in effect, to suggest that since we do not really think but only think that we think, we had better change our minds without undue delay." (1975b, 53). ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html