We have had threads before on the subject of car names. I return to this because a friend is buying a Toyota Camry and I wanted to know what a "Camry" was. If Wikipedia is correct the meeting may have gone something like this: Top Salaryman: Anyone have suggestions about what to call the new car? Salaryman One: "Crown" has always worked for us. Corona and Corolla were good. T.S.: True. Anyone know yet another way of saying "crown"? Salaryman Two: Kanmuri? Somewhat Lost Foreign Guest: Did he say Camry? We rented a Skoda Citigo recently. I liked it. While Citigo is, in my view, a stupid name for a car, it's better than the VW equivalent of this car, which is called and "up!" (complete with exclamation mark). I can't imagine Mr Rolls and Mr Royce saying, "Let's add an exclamation mark to the name of our car." While we were wandering around Britain we came across a gathering of the Trojan owners club. You'll find a history of the car here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_(automobile) I liked the advertising slogans, "The car that made walking an extravagance," and, more simply, "Dad, why don't you try a Trojan?" Couldn't say that in America. Carry on, David Ritchie, Portland, Oregon------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html