[lit-ideas] Re: The 9.11 Report
- From: "Stan Spiegel" <writeforu2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 16:07:57 -0400
Andreas -
I read that New Yorker article too. But saying that Israel is synonymous
with those settlers is like saying America is synonymous with the KKK. I
found those settlers disgusting too. But that was only half the article. And
Jeffrey Goldberg didn't just write about those settlers. He also wrote about
the implacable Palestinians -- who even deny the Holocaust ever happened --
and the corrosive effect they have on the relationship. You don't deny the
Holocaust happened, do you?
Israel is a complex society too. You can't draw conclusions about all of
Israel because of the shitty things some groups are engaged in -- any more
than you can about America.
I don't expect Andreas to draw such half-assed conclusions on such a
selective portion of the article. I'm tired of hearing otherwise intelligent
people concluding stupid things about Israel. I'm now even hearing that
Israel was behind 9.11. Don't shake my confidence in you by also supporting
that crap!
Stan Spiegel
Portland, Maine
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From: "Andreas Ramos" <andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 2:58 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The 9.11 Report
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stan Spiegel" <writeforu2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> > Andreas - Is it you or the 911 Commission that said:
> >
> > "As long at the USA continues to support Israel's violent, racist,
> > genocidal, apartheid policies against Arabs, the Arab world will hate
and
> > resent the USA and more attacks will happen."
> >
> > If it is indeed you who are characterizing Israel's behavior alone as
> > "violent, racist, genocidal and apartheid," I'd like to know where that
> > comes from.
>
> It comes from the Israeli themselves.
>
> Read the long article about the Israeli "settlers" in the New Yorker about
a month ago. The
> "settlers" talk about their world views, their attitudes, their plans.
"Violent, racist,
> genocidal, and apartheid" is a fair and accurate description of the their
attitude toward
> the Arabs.
>
> yrs,
> andreas
> www.andreas.com
>
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