[lit-ideas] Re: The 9.11 Report
- From: Ronnie <vcaley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:38:36 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
I'll consider this after I stop laughing. No that it's a bad idea, just that
it is so novel and creative. Really. Thanks for the laugh.
Veronica
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From: Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Jul 26, 2004 3:04 PM
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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The 9.11 Report
Veronica:
>>Re Israel, if we are advocating removing Israel from the Middle East, you
(we) need to come up with a place for them (6 million plus) to go, assuming
they are willing, which I believe they are not. <<
TEXAS. I've recommended that we turn Texas over to the Jews before, but no
one took me up on it. Our (forced) annexation of Texas from Mexico was a
tragic error as anyone can see. The place is uncivilizable. It has nothing
to recommend it. I'm convinced that only the Jews could make that place
flower. The only reason the state of Israel exists today is that Western
Europe and the U.S. felt so guilty over their attempts to kill all the Jews
that they stole the lands of Palestinians and gave it to the Jews in
recompense. Sorry about that 2000 years of killing you people. Here, take
this guy's house. Everybody happy now? So why not give the Jews Texas?
Let the people in Texas move to Utah. The geography's the same and those
Mormons need a little competition from Baptists, I think. Or maybe the
Mormons can teach the Baptists how to sing. Either way, we win. Hell,
offer the Texans ten acres and a mule if they'll move to any western state
except California. There's plenty of room out there. This is a great idea.
Plus I think it would be neat to have New Tel Aviv (Galveston) only 500
miles from Memphis. I guess Houston would become the New Jerusalem. Dallas
what? New Nazareth? San Antonio? What fun that would be renaming all the
cities. I say we offer Sharon Texas for free. It's an idea whose time has
come.
Mike Geary
Memphis
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From: "Ronnie" <vcaley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 2:08 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The 9.11 Report
> I agree with most of what you say re report, government, etc. I think we
need an explanation why we waste money on junk like Star Wars, etc. and an
accounting of what they have done with the innumerable billions for defense.
Re Israel, if we are advocating removing Israel from the Middle East, you
(we) need to come up with a place for them (6 million plus) to go, assuming
they are willing, which I believe they are not. My fear about all this is
that if it is tried, the whole ME and us will go up in nuclear holocaust, as
it has been made clear that this time the Jews are not going alone. There
is also the question of who was there first, (I believe the Jews) etc., etc.
>
> Re which Arabs will be carpet bombed if it comes to that, I am afraid,
literally, that most of the US population will not much care.
>
> If Israel is the cause of all our troubles, how does one explain the Arab
Muslims in the Sudan exterminating the African Muslims in the Sudan? I
don't get this, really.
>
> Greeting from the North Sea on the way to UK, Ireland, Shetlands and
Iceland.
>
> Veronica
> Milford, MI, usually.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andreas Ramos <andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Jul 24, 2004 10:31 PM
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The 9.11 Report
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Veronica Caley" <vcaley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> > Andreas, I am not sure how much of this is a summary and how much is
> > editorializing on your part. However, I will read the book. I am
reminded
> > of Larry Kramer on this list, when it was Phil-Lit, and his comment that
it
> > might come to the point where the US will bomb Arab civilians
deliberately.
> > I assure you that if these guys set off a biological or nuclear device
and
> > kill tens, let alone hundreds of thousands, there will be millions
bleeding
> > in the Arab world. Literally. And Americans will back it, no matter
who
> > the president is.
>
> Only the last six or so paragraphs are mine. The rest is a straightforward
summary of the
> text. There is a tremendous amount of detail in the 450 pages of text. The
footnotes are
> another 100 pages, and these are worth reading. Regrettably, the document
has no index.
>
> Various newspaper articles write that the commissioners are all in
agreement that bin Laden
> will attack the USA on a massive scale. When Islamic terrorists blow up
NYC, just where are
> we going to retaliate? Pick an Arab city at random?
>
> I've been reading the European and Asian newspapers and their articles
about the 9.11
> Report. The major American newspapers and magazines are also writing about
it. Congress must
> act quickly to change the US approach, or it will soon return to
business-as-usual, and that
> means the clock will continue to tick.
>
> The report makes the case that it's not Bush or Clinton who were directly
at fault. The real
> culprit is the entire US government, both Congress, the US military, the
alphabet soup of
> secret agencies (FBI, CIA, NSA, etc), and so on, which form a vast
dyfunctional bureaucracy
> which is incapable of seeing a threat or doing anything about it. After
Pearl Harbor, the US
> went into overdrive and built a huge war machine. This time, we're facing
an enemy that can
> hurt us more than the Japanese navy, and three years after 9.11, basically
nothing has
> changed. No one dares to discuss Israel in public.
>
> yrs,
> andreas
> www.andreas.com
>
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