I didn't see the movie and have no desire to. The reviewer mourns days of "real men" who could take a punch. That seems to be a longing for the old days in the schoolyard, i.e., reflects the reviewer's own immaturity, but maybe my leftist standards are too high. He also complains, appropriately, I think, that the characters are too young-looking for the part. They probably are, but that might be in large part because movies today are made with an eye toward world, rather than U.S. consumption. Most of the world (especially the developing world) are obsessed with youth. In a lot of the world, once you turn 30 you enter the realm of the living dead for the rest of your living dead life. The "truth, justice and everything that's good" speaks for itself regarding how the U.S. is now viewed in the world. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Helm To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 6/30/2006 9:31:35 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Superman Returns A lurker sent me the following review of the subject movie: http://www.libertyfilmfestival.com/libertas/?p=1659 The review pans the movie, but the responses to the review are also interesting and put it in perspective. The reviewer takes on the whole super-hero genre and not just Superman, but some of the responders argue convincingly that many of the earlier movie heroes were super-heroes as well. I have occasionally ordered some movie or series I watched as a kid and have invariably been disappointed. I can recall going to the Saturday matinees and seeing Serials that struck me as tremendously exciting. I ordered several of them not so long ago and found them awful. I haven?t been impressed with any of the modern Superman, Batman, Shadow, Phantom, Daredevil or Spiderman movies. I have to watch all this junk because I liked the comic books when I was a kid, but maybe I?ll skip Batman Returns. . . The animation in the Hulk was interesting but not the acting or story line ? IMO. Someone for reasons unclear seems to have recommended reading The Constant Gardener. I have in the past been enough interested in a movie to read the book it was based upon, but The Constant Gardener doesn?t fall into that category. Lawrence