[lit-ideas] Re: Story-telling is the best protection
- From: Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:00:28 +0100 (BST)
Well, in Ballybunyan when there's a full moon they say condoms work better.
--- On Thu, 11/8/11, Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Alla Grice, but less pedantically, I would ask for
> some clarification.
What follows from JLS bears on the 'Beyond Signalling Lies Nothing' thread,
which arose from JLS's claim that for Grice there is nothing in language
further than signalling. For the "clarification" sought here is surely more
than signalling? Also Grice's reference to "Truth" in his "Maxim of Quality" is
surely a reference to "Truth" in a sense beyond mere signalling (for the
measure of 'signalling', its worth or value, lies in its effectiveness - and
this is only contingently related to the truth of its content [indeed, in many
cases it is the measure of the effectiveness of a signal that it misleads, and
thus that its content as 'description' is false; this kind of misleading signal
violates Grices "Maxim of Quality: Truth" but it violates no 'Maxim of Quality:
Effectiveness' as it pertains to the signalling function of language].
So perhaps we should, having waited patiently, now receive "clarification" from
JLS as to whether Grice seriously contends that language is limited to
signalling and how this is to be defended against the obvious objections,
including Popper's?
Donal
London
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