[lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us...
- From: "Steven G. Cameron" <stevecam@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:44:09 -0400
**Cursory scan of early morning newspaper (Ledger), before 0800 class,
reveals at least six court cases already in the works to challenge the
upcoming presidential election results...
TC,
/Steve Cameron, NJ
Carol Kirschenbaum wrote:
> Mike,
> You're right, something's wrong. But the fact remains that a vote for anyone
> but Kerry on Nov.2 will contribute to a win for Bush. We didn't think that
> situation would be all that horrible, back in 2000, but Bush hasn't been the
> kind of middle-roading prez most Dems figured him for. There was a huge
> difference between Bush and Gore in 2000, and there's a chasm between Bush
> and Kerry now. With Kerry, we'd have a chance to salvage the system of
> checks and balances, and maybe not turn into the white Christian nation
> Bushites believe we should be.
>
> But whether Bush & Co. will accept a non-win, despite the votes, is a
> serious problem.
>
> Ditto for Kerry and the Dems.
>
> Is either party willing to be declared the loser in a tight race? I doubt
> it. And who would "declare" such a thing--the Supreme Court again? This
> election will be decided in the courts, it seems, if it hasn't already been
> settled in some back room. I, for one, don't figure that the Dems will win
> the electoral votes, even if you suck it up and vote for Kerry. But you owe
> it to your curiousity to hand the Dems a win and see what happens from
> there. Should be interesting. Btw, you *are* very cute!
> Carol K.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 4:50 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us...
>
>
>
>>This election is about choosing the best candidate for President. We
>
> think
>
>>that it's a choice between Bush and Kerry, but there are are a lot more
>>candidates than them to choose from. There's
>>the Prohibition Party, candidate Gene Amondson;
>>the Constitution Party; candidate Gene Peroutski;
>>the Green Party candidate David Cobb;
>>the Libertarian Party candidate David Badnarik;
>>the Peace & Liberty Party candidate Leonard Peltier;
>>the Party of Personal Choice candidate Charles Jay;
>>the Prohibition Party candidate Earl Dodge;
>>the Reform Party candidate Ralph Nader;
>>the Socialist Party candidate Walt Brown;
>>the Socialist Equality Party candidate Walt Auken;
>>the Socialist Workers Party candidate Roger Colero;
>>the Workers World Party candidate John Parker.
>>
>>In addition there are two Independent canditates, Stanford Andress and
>>Thomas Harens. And finally there are the official "write-in" candidates:
>>A.J. Albritton (American Republican Party-Mississippi),
>>Sterling Allan (Providential Party-Utah),
>>Kenneth M. Bonnell (I-Mississippi),
>>Harry Braun (I-Arizona),
>>Fred Cook (I-Georgia),
>>Eric J. Davis (Michigan),
>>Robert DiGiulio (Children's Party-Vermont),
>>Bob Dorn (Washington),
>>Lonnie D. Frank (I-California),
>>Ronald "John Galt Jr." Gascon (I-Pensylvania),
>>Jack Grimes (United Fascist Union-Pennsylvania),
>>Michael Halpin (I-New York),
>>Larry D. Hines (I-Texas),
>>Georgia Hough (I-Georgia),
>>Keith Judd (I-Massachusetts),
>>Darren E. Karr (Party X-Oregon),
>>Samuel Keegan (I-Rhode Island),
>>John Joseph Kennedy (I-Georgia),
>>Joseph Martyniuk Jr. (I-Illinois),
>>David Mevis (I-Mississippi),
>>Muadin (E-Democratic Party-Massachusetts),
>>Jeffrey Peters (We The People Party-New Hampshire),
>>Andrew M. Rotramel (I-Texas),
>>Joseph "Average Joe" Schriner (I-Ohio),
>>Dennis P. Slatton (United America Party-North Carolina),
>>Dan Snow (I-Texas),
>>Brian B. Springfield (I-Virginia),
>>Diane Templin (American Party-California),
>>Lawrence Rey Topham (I-Utah),
>>Lemuel Tucker (I-Michigan),
>>Da Vid (Light Party-California),
>>Tom Wells (Family Values Party-Florida),
>>A.J. Wildman (I-Virginia)
>>
>>In a truly democratic country, this would not be an election between two
>>men, but all of the above. Something's wrong.
>>
>>Mike Geary
>>Memphis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Veronica Caley" <vcaley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 3:30 PM
>>Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us...
>>
>>
>>
>>>Andy said:
>>>"Do you really think Democrats are as bad as Republicans in
>
> environmental
>
>>>matters? The Sierra Club supports Kerry."
>>>
>>>Veronica says: Of course not. I am intending to vote for Kerry and
>>>Democratic Congressional representatives and judges. I will vote for
>
> one
>
>>>Republican for regent of one of our universities.
>>>
>>>I am NOT asking anyone to vote for Nader. I think Nader is a zealot as
>
> is
>
>>>willing to sacrifice the rest of us to four more years of this idiocy.
>>>I was only trying to say that if he is a spoiler, which he might very
>
> well
>
>>>turn out to be, he is my enemy. But a lot of what he says is true.
>>>A lot of improvement in American life has been due to people on the
>>>fringes, which is where labor unions, the idea of Medicare and Social
>>>Security benefits were at one time.
>>>
>>>Example: I get a letter from Hillary Clinton asking me to contribute to
>>>the
>>>Democratic Party. This is the same week in which she and other
>
> Democrats
>
>>>are shown being wined and dined and lobbied by corporations of
>
> everything
>
>>>and anything. A few weeks later, Zell Miller is going nuts at the
>>>Republican Convention telling everyone to vote for Bush, even though he
>
> is
>
>>>a Democrat from Georgia. I contribute to individual candidates for
>
> every
>
>>>office that takes a lot of money, but not the party.
>>>
>>>In my fantasies I see or hope Nader throwing his support to Kerry. He
>>>says
>>>he is asking his supporters to only vote for him in those states that
>
> are
>
>>>safe for Bush. Who knows? At this point I don't even believe the
>
> polls.
>
>>>But I am absolutely not voting for Nader and wish no one would. I
>
> didn't
>
>>>vote for him the last time either, and I wish no one had. But it's
>
> worth
>
>>>listening to him.
>>>
>>>Veronica
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>[Original Message]
>>>>From: Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Date: 10/19/2004 9:58:10 AM
>>>>Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us...
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Veronica Caley <vcaley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Oct 19, 2004 1:09 AM
>>>>To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us...
>>>>
>>>>To Andy and Andreas,
>>>>
>>>>I am being charitable and giving Nader the benefit of doubt. I am
>
> taking
>
>>>>him at his word that he really wants the reforms he says he does. I
>>>>agree
>>>>with him that all he wants will not happen with a Democrat or a
>>>>Republican
>>>>president. I give him the benefit of the doubt because of his
>
> relentless
>
>>>>efforts to improve vehicle safety when the car companies and the
>>>
>>>government
>>>
>>>>were trying to label him as some kind of nut. Also, GM was putting
>>>>detectives on his trail at that time to try to intimidate him.
>>>>
>>>>Veronica
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Do you really think Democrats are as bad as Republicans in
>
> environmental
>
>>>matters? The Sierra Club supports Kerry.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>[Original Message]
>>>>>From: Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Date: 10/18/2004 7:56:41 PM
>>>>>Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us...
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Veronica Caley <vcaley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Oct 18, 2004 5:55 PM
>>>>>To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>As the mother and grandmother of a woman and an eight year old girl,
>
> I
>
>>>>>would like to ask people on this list to vote for Kerry rather than
>>>
>>>Nader,
>>>
>>>>>even though I consider Nader an honorable man who is trying to bring
>>>
>>>about
>>>
>>>>>reforms that most people on this list would approve of. I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>A.A. I'm still wondering how someone who takes votes away from the
>>>
>>>party
>>>
>>>>most capable of giving teeth to his issues and essentially supports
>
> those
>
>>>>opposed to his issues is anything more than a self-serving egomaniac.
>>>
>>>What
>>>
>>>>is it I'm not getting?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Andy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Yours,
>>>>>Veronica
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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