To play the missing Odeous Gricean, I think the implicature of Obama was: NOT [literally] the offensive rhetorical: Some of you may remember 9/11? but the metaphorical explorative: a lot of you seem to have forgotten the continuing importance of 9/11 and its relatively close temporal proximity to now. just guessing of course, just a [socially retarded?] Canadian, who remembers 9/11 like it was yesterday and will never forget where I was or how that entire month went after. p ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html