Wondering which of the two "sentencing" threads to post this to, I simply decided to create a third - why not add to the confusion? In any event, Time has an interesting article on Libby's sentencing -- but it expands to talk more broadly about sentencing in general. It clarified some things for me, at least. (Oh, and the whole intent/result thing is addressed in it....not satisfactorily, but addressed.) http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1628373,00.html?cnn=yes Julie Krueger