[lit-ideas] Re: Seeking the Prime source

  • From: "Lawrence Helm"<lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Lit-Ideas" <Lit-Ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:12:48 +0000

I recall a couple of other things.  Yes, she lied in such a way to make her 
initial acceptance into the Netherlands assured, but she reported feeling 
desperate at the time.  Also, objective observers later, when Hirsi Ali was 
taking flack over the lies she put on her application, said every immigrant 
lies about something on his or her application.  Had Hirsi Ali not achieved 
such a prominent and controversial position in the Dutch government, her 
citizenship would never have been challenged.  



 ------------Original Message------------
From: "Lawrence Helm"<lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tue, Mar-13-2007 11:01 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Seeking the Prime source

She wrote about this.  I had forgotten some of the details, but the fact is she 
fled an oppressive situation.  She was young and didn't want her family to send 
someone after her.  She lied to make it difficult to find her.  Why would she 
want to lie so that people with a history of honor killing couldn't find her?  
Beats me.




 ------------Original Message------------
From: "Judith Evans" <judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tue, Mar-13-2007 10:41 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Seeking the Prime source

>>>>>>>>.
But then her family said, "oh, no, Hirsi.  We would accept you
back.  You didn't need to flee."  They in effect called her a
liar.  Therefore Hirsi Ali was accused of lying
<<<<<<<<<<<<

Incorrect.   She is known to have lied about her name and date of
birth
and about the country from which she had fled (Canada, not, as
she said,
Somalia).
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