[lit-ideas] Re: Sarah Palin gets the spiteful Margaret Thatcher treatment
- From: Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 20:27:22 -0700 (PDT)
The point was that you didn't post anything positive. You did the old
communists-are-our-enemies thing only you substituted liberals, not that that's
anything new. I.e., negative identity. Anything positive had to be
specifically requested. I'm still not clear what qualifies her to be
president. Like, was she president of the PTA? What does she know about
foreign affairs? Her answer to energy is to drill. That's fine for a few
months (yes, a few months) and it'll be sold on the world market anyway. So,
Lawrence, why should we vote for your candidate?
--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Sarah Palin gets the spiteful Margaret Thatcher
treatment
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 3:10 AM
You and Irene are both speaking from ignorance. Someone who listened to her
speech knows how dumb what you two are saying really is. Sarah addressed these
things you two maunder about and did it brilliantly. She admitted she was
being criticized for being from a small town and being the mayor of one. She
said she guessed being mayor of a small town was sort of like being a Community
Organizer – except that she had to make decisions. Pretty good, don’t you
think?
She wasn’t just a mayor. She was also a governor. She was a brilliant
governor. She has had more executive experience than your whole Democratic
ticket. If your Democratic leaders are going to criticize her lack of
experience, they are going to lose big time.
Lawrence
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Behalf Of John McCreery
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 7:45 PM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Sarah Palin gets the spiteful Margaret Thatcher
treatment
Do tell. What scurrilous lies have been told about Palin? Except, of course,
things like the preposterous puffery of treating being the Mayor of a town of
9,000 as "executive experience," acting as if her relationship to the Alaska
National Guard in any but the most pro forma way military command, the sorts of
things her supporters say? Why, precisely, was it that Tucker Bounds had such a
terrible time coming up with a single concrete example of an executive decision
that she's made; not that she hasn't made any, but government routine is no
qualification to be a heartbeat away from the presidency? How do you square
this incredible inflation of the truth with what Karl Rove had to say about Tim
Kaine's experience when he was being considered for VP by Obama?
Come on, Lawrence, do list some lies for us.
Is it a lie that she left Wasilia 20 million dollars in debt for a sports
complex instead of improvements to basic infrastructure, for example?
Is it a lie that she is now under investigation for two (albeit related) ethics
violations?
Is it a lie that she supports the teaching of Creationism in public schools or
sought to have books removed from the public library because they offended her
religious prejudices?
Is it a lie that she has a pregnant teenage daughter and a special needs child,
both of whom she has exposed to intense public scrutiny for her own political
purposes?
Balls in your court.
John
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Talk about taking your identity from your enemy. Instead of finding something
positive to say about Sarah Palin, the right wing finds the negative about the
other side. Can't you say anything positive about your candidate? And while
you're at it, can you find something about Margaret Thatcher other than the
left supposedly hated her?
--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [lit-ideas] Sarah Palin gets the spiteful Margaret Thatcher treatment
To: "Lit-Ideas" <Lit-Ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 1:02 AM
I watched Sarah Palin's speech last night – as well as a ton of Left-Wing
garbage from various sources. Here is an interesting article about Sarah from
England:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/09/04/do0404.xml&DCMP=EMC-new_05092008
This is from the www.Telegraph.co.uk by Janet Daley comparing the current
Leftist criticism of Sarah Palin to that once aimed at Margaret Thatcher.
"Like Margaret Thatcher before her, Mrs Palin is coming in for both barrels of
Left-wing contempt: misogyny and snobbery. Where Lady Thatcher was dismissed as
a "grocer's daughter" by people who called themselves egalitarian, Mrs Palin is
regarded as a small-town nobody by those who claim to represent 'ordinary
people'.
"What the metropolitan sophisticates failed to understand in the 1980s when
Thatcher won election after election is even more the case in the US: most (and
I do mean most) ordinary people actually believe in the basic decencies, the
"small-town values", of family, marital fidelity, and personal responsibility.
They believe in and honour them - even if they do not manage to uphold them.
"Middle America - of which Alaska is spiritually, if not geographically, a part
- builds its life around those ideals and regards commonplace moral lapses as
part of the eternal struggle to be good.
"The life of small-town USA is based on the principles of those Protestant
colonial settlers who founded the nation: hard work, self-improvement, personal
faith and family devotion. Mrs Palin speaks to and for them in a way that
patronising "liberal" elitists find infuriating."
Good stuff!
Lawrence Helm
San Jacinto
--
John McCreery
The Word Works, Ltd., Yokohama, JAPAN
Tel. +81-45-314-9324
http://www.wordworks.jp/
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